17-05-2003 11:29									#1
	System Requirements and Issues with Drivers/Video Cards Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Hi,

Tried downloading the Demo, installed fine, but when I go to run the program I get the attatched image.

My computer is only 2 years old, and has decent Specs...I know someone with a much older computer, and his runs fine.

Any ideas on what the min. requirements are for Drivers/Video Cards and if I'm able to play the demo without getting any expensive upgrades? Thanks!

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	17-05-2003 11:35									#2
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quote: System Requirements: Windows: XP/2000/ME/98 -128 MB RAM Processor: 500 MHz Hard Drive: 800 MB Video Card: 16 MB 3D card Other: audio board with speakers and / or headphones

According to this, I'm set. 800 Mhz, more than enough HD space, and I've got Audio...i just don't know if my Video Card is good enough (though I would assume that it is...works with other games that are just as high-end...)

Anyone know how I can check that info and see if it's good enough?

	17-05-2003 12:17									#3
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What kind of vid card do you have? And.. do you have the latest drivers for it?

	17-05-2003 19:06									#4
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Run the program "DxDiag", which is a tool to evaluate your DirectX drivers and how they are interacting with your hardware.

Go to Start -> Run. Type dxdiag in the dialog box and hit enter. Check the "Display" tab. Besides telling you what is your videocard and what are its capabilities, the program will tell you if there are any problems with your current directx version.

If there is something wrong, download both the latest drivers for your videocard and the latest directx version (9.0). This will probably solve your problems.

	17-05-2003 21:04									#5
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it's an ATI Mobility M3 card. As far as I know it's 16MB (8 and 8)

	17-05-2003 21:37									#6
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There have always been known issues with ATI video cards and computer games. Why is that I wonder

Also, RoN does NOT support Voodoo video cards. So unless tens of thousands of gamers buy NEW video cards, they are out of luck and BHG is out the revenue. . .

	17-05-2003 21:52									#7
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I've never had an issue with mine. It's worked with every game I've ever had.

And I can't replace my Video Card...it's for a laptop, so it's soddered on.

	17-05-2003 21:58									#8
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quote: Originally posted by orange I've never had an issue with mine. It's worked with every game I've ever had. And I can't replace my Video Card...it's for a laptop, so it's soddered on.

You're lucky you have never had a problem before. Almost all issues I have seen have been with ATI video cards and games. . .

However, it will be interesting to see if other people with ATI cards will be able to play RoN. . .

	18-05-2003 01:13									#9
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I have a Radeon 9700 Pro and the demo runs great for me. I just updated to the 3.4 Cats

	18-05-2003 05:25									#10
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When i try to run the Rise of Nations Trial version i am getting the
Error - "This video card driver is not supported for use with
Rise of Nations. Please download the latest drivers from your
manufacturer's website."


I am running
Compaq Evo N600C laptop with windows 2000
Directx9.0a
Mobility Radeon (Radeon M6-P Driver for Windows 2000)
pls see the attched screen shot also..


what should i do

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	18-05-2003 07:00									#11
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quote: Originally posted by diablologin When i try to run the Rise of Nations Trial version i am getting the Error - "This video card driver is not supported for use with Rise of Nations. Please download the latest drivers from your manufacturer's website." I am running Compaq Evo N600C laptop with windows 2000 Directx9.0a Mobility Radeon (Radeon M6-P Driver for Windows 2000) pls see the attched screen shot also.. what should i do

There are known problems with ATI's M6 chipset.

Currently, there may be some hope.

PLEASE NOTE: No one should attempt to mess with their computer setup unless you back up your files and you know what you are doing.

Proceed with caution: Gamers have found mixed results with the following information.

Some gamers who had the M6 chipset like yours, have found a solution by using either the ATI Radeon 7200 or 7500 LTY drivers instead.

Try this:

Download:

http://pdownload.mii.instacontent.n...10-6200-efg.exe

- extract it into e.g. your temp directory (do not run setup.exe as this does not seem to work)
- go to Display properties, select Settings tab
- press Advanced, select Adapter tab
- press Properties, select Driver tab
- press Update Driver ... Welcome to the HW Update Wizard comes up
- select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced), press Next
- select Don't search. I will chose the driver to install, press Next
- select Have Disk
- Browse to your 'temp' directory where you've extracted downloaded package
- a list with many RADEON models will come up. Choose RADEON 7200, press Next, Finish, Restart etc.

Hope this helps

Best of luck.

My advice to everyone: Don't buy a video card that has the Radeon M6 chipset.

	18-05-2003 12:44									#12
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I did everything you said Leo, and now my computer is ****ed up! I can't put my settings to anything but 640x480 and 16 colours and on top of that the game STILL doesn't work

How do I fix it?!?!!

	18-05-2003 18:49									#13
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quote: Originally posted by orange aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhh I did everything you said Leo, and now my computer is ****ed up! I can't put my settings to anything but 640x480 and 16 colours and on top of that the game STILL doesn't work How do I fix it?!?!!

Orange:

I see that you have an ATI Rage Mobility M3 card. The instructions I gave was for the Radeon Mobility M6 card. These are two different video cards! I'm not surprised that you have video problems now.

Do you have the ATI M3/M4 Video Driver version A03 for Windows 2000?

Nothing's wrong with your computer, it should just be a matter of changing back to your old driver again.

Try each of these steps:

1) Follow these instructions:

- go to Display properties, select Settings tab
- press Advanced, select Adapter tab
- press Properties, select Driver tab
- press Update Driver ... Welcome to the HW Update Wizard comes up
- select Install from a list or specific location (Advanced), press Next
- select search, and let the computer select the driver to install, press Next

and follow the instructions. Your computer should then re-select your old M3 driver again.

OR


2) Here is ATI's web page where you can select the correct driver and download it:

http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html

Sorry for the mixup


EDIT: Everyone should take note of what driver your video card is currently using. This way, should anything go wrong in changing drivers, you can easily switch back to it again

	18-05-2003 20:54									#14
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ah, I'm sorry Leo, I just realized that you were talking to someone else and not me. I saw you talking about ATI and thought it was directed to me without looking at whom you quoted.

It's ok, i figured out a way to uninstall the bad drivers last night. Thanks

	18-05-2003 21:02									#15
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quote: Originally posted by orange ah, I'm sorry Leo, I just realized that you were talking to someone else and not me. I saw you talking about ATI and thought it was directed to me without looking at whom you quoted. It's ok, i figured out a way to uninstall the bad drivers last night. Thanks

Glad to see everything worked out OK

	18-05-2003 21:50									#16
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This reads more and more suspicioulsy like a truly Microsoft game release...

	19-05-2003 00:01									#17
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Hi Leonidas ,

i tired installing the drivers of Radeon 7200 and 7500 series .. the result was "Blue screen of Death"

but i restored the laptop back ....so no problem......

still want to try out some thing more , so i can play the game

thanks
Diablo

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quote: Originally posted by diablologin Hi Leonidas , i tired installing the drivers of Radeon 7200 and 7500 series .. the result was "Blue screen of Death" but i restored the laptop back ....so no problem...... still want to try out some thing more , so i can play the game thanks Diablo

diablologin:

Hi

I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination - lol - I'm just trying to help out fellow gamers

Too bad. Some other ATI gamers have found some success with these drivers.

But I guess a lot may have to do with your computer setup.

In one of the links above I have included the ATI driver download page. It may be worthwhile trying a few drivers for your chipset to see what happens.

Don't worry I'm in the same boat as you: RoN DOES NOT support ANY Voodoo video card. Go figure

Best of luck

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quote: Originally posted by dearmad This reads more and more suspicioulsy like a truly Microsoft game release...

The universe may be unfolding according to plan, but whose plan?

	19-05-2003 06:31									#20
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Hi Leonidas ,

i tired almost all drivers from the ATI .....still no luck..... i think i need to chnage my laptop to play RON

or i have to install RON in my office PC and play instaed of working

Thanks for your help Leonidas

thanks
Diablo

	19-05-2003 08:20									#21
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quote: Originally posted by diablologin Hi Leonidas , i tired almost all drivers from the ATI .....still no luck..... i think i need to chnage my laptop to play RON or i have to install RON in my office PC and play instaed of working Thanks for your help Leonidas thanks Diablo

Too bad. Clearly there are just some things that even technology magic cannot overcome - lol

Wish I could have been of more help - but that's the way it goes sometimes

Cheers!