17-05-2003 11:29									#1
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what type of game do you like best and if one of the genres were to be 'perfected' in a single game, which would you like it to be?

In other words, would you like to see a flawless Civilization game, or the most beatiful RPG, astonishing FPS, perfected Deus Ex type game, simulation, RTS, what?

vote your choice.

	17-05-2003 12:05									#2
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My perfect game would be an RPG. I am a big fan of the Genre and there have been no good RPG's for the PC in years. I may even have to buy a playstation just to get my fix. (please note, I am not a fan of AD&D)

	17-05-2003 13:17									#3
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What this world needs is for Bungie to make Myth 4.

	17-05-2003 16:23									#4
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Anyone who says there are no good RPG's on PC is insane, and I don't mean you need to play BG1&2 or so to play good ones, most of them are not D&D... The RPG's on PC are thriving at this moment, but I reckon some people never hear about those, they only know Baldurs gate, and morrowind...

	17-05-2003 17:12									#5
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The perfect game would be a game, that's a mixture of different games... I'm talking about fps + fighting (Street Fighter type of fighting) + TBS + RPG = Interesting game... very interesting, I'd say...

quote: Originally posted by Trajanus Anyone who says there are no good RPG's on PC is insane, and I don't mean you need to play BG1&2 or so to play good ones, most of them are not D&D... The RPG's on PC are thriving at this moment, but I reckon some people never hear about those, they only know Baldurs gate, and morrowind...

I have seen different RPG games, but they all have one thing in common: They sucks... I like the generel idea of RPG games, but they all make them soooo boooring...

	17-05-2003 17:16									#6
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I want to vote for both Civilization 5 and Myth 4

I demand a multi choise poll!

	17-05-2003 20:08									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Henrik I want to vote for both Civilization 5 and Myth 4 I demand a multi choise poll!

so no hope for Civ 4 being any good - jumping straight to Civ 5?

I personally like strategy and RPG, and generally like turn-based because most RT RPG/strategy games I've played wind up having many units are rather poor at allowing you to coordinate your units. Either that or you run up against unit maxes and then it comes down to who can build the next unit first after a unit is killed. I'd really like to see a game tackle those problems.

	17-05-2003 20:22									#8
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The perfect game will be a Real time RPG.

	18-05-2003 00:31									#9
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Definetely a Civ game.

Just think... You are the unquestioned ruler of a whole country, with the perfect level of detail, the perfect experience. :drools:

	18-05-2003 01:46									#10
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a real time where you can stop the time

	18-05-2003 04:33									#11
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Give me the ultimate Civilization game...

Civ won't get much better than Civ2 and cEvo. I am burned out on it anyways.

I've always wanted a 'really good' FP Shooter...

What's wrong with Duke3D and Serious Sam?

RTS rocks, improve that genre...

Total Annihilation with a modern engine and a persistent levelling commander a la Warlords Battlecry II.

* St Leo drools

Other... please specify what kind of game you'd like to see...

A good original strategy game would be nice. Personally, I am very hyped up about Crusader Kings from Paradox and Warlords IV from Infinite Interactive (they split from SSG).

	18-05-2003 05:39									#12
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The perfect game has already been made, Europa Universalis and all it's counter parts.


It just needs a bit of tweaking.

	18-05-2003 19:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld The perfect game has already been made, Europa Universalis and all it's counter parts. It just needs a bit of tweaking.

Yeah, it needs tweaking... like another time-period




...haven't even tried that game... and probably never will..

	18-05-2003 19:39									#14
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Yeah, it needs tweaking... like another time-period

Well... there's Hearts of Iron, and the upcoming Crusader Kings. What more do you want?

I think there may also be a roman time one in the works, aswell.

	18-05-2003 19:55									#15
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From 1000 AD to 2000 AD, nothing interested has happened, to make a game like that...

...that Roman game sounds much better...

	18-05-2003 20:03									#16
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Give me the perfect infinite free turnbased RPG with 2nd edition AD&D rules (and the 3rd edition magic tweaks) and up to 8 characters in a party up to level 1-36 with a whole series of "big quests" (i.e. the gold box games, as one game, with a new interface, and more freedom) and I'll have my perfect game

-Jam

	18-05-2003 21:44									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Give me the perfect infinite free turnbased RPG with 2nd edition AD&D rules (and the 3rd edition magic tweaks) and up to 8 characters in a party up to level 1-36 with a whole series of "big quests" (i.e. the gold box games, as one game, with a new interface, and more freedom) and I'll have my perfect game -Jam

I'll second that I might even buy that game before it hit the bargain bin

	18-05-2003 22:46									#18
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Jamski, bump that Red Alert 2 thread any time you want.

	19-05-2003 04:30									#19
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I play different games for different things. For example, if I have some aggression I need to use up, I will play a FPS and kill a bunch of computer players. For this, the many FPS around are adequate.

If I want to be drawn into a whole new world as RPGs attempt to do though, I will come up with a blank. There aren't many games that will do this to even a fraction of what a perfect RPG should be. So if I had to pick only 1 genre that could be perfected in a game, it would be RPG.

	19-05-2003 04:53									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns If I want to be drawn into a whole new world as RPGs attempt to do though, I will come up with a blank. There aren't many games that will do this to even a fraction of what a perfect RPG should be. So if I had to pick only 1 genre that could be perfected in a game, it would be RPG.

If you know the right people, multiplayer RPGs can do that for you. Even MMORPGs can get to the "fraction" level sometimes.

	19-05-2003 05:06									#21
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quote: If I want to be drawn into a whole new world as RPGs attempt to do though, I will come up with a blank. There aren't many games that will do this to even a fraction of what a perfect RPG should be.

Play Morrowind. It's amazing in immersion.

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I voted for RPG, but really, the perfect game will cross genres. The best action games are those that added RPG elements (like a DAMNED STORY and skill attributs)... with the exception of GTA3, but that had a whole city which you could tackle in any way you really wanted (kinda RPGish in that way).

	19-05-2003 09:57									#22
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The most perfect games are Go (name of the game) first then chess.
In PC, a perfect game would be a perfect Civ, but that would be impossible.

	19-05-2003 13:02									#23
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Whatever kind of game Super Mario Brothers is. I don't know if any of these options fit.

	19-05-2003 17:48									#24
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quote: The perfect game will be a Real time RPG

Have you tried Morrowind?

I'm all about the killer RPG.

	19-05-2003 18:05									#25
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For me, it has to be an ultimate Civilization game. Why? The replay value... Which game would you like to bring with you to an isolated island? Puzzle solving games and FPS are fun the first few times, but once you're done with the quests and know where the bad guys are...

No, give me a brilliant strategy game and I'll happily let the next 5 to 7 years of my life go down the drain to join with my past!

Carolus

	21-05-2003 02:15									#26
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Ultimate civ game. But what I have in mind would be so complex it would make programmers go apoplectic.

	21-05-2003 03:03									#27
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Morrowind style (but not Morrowind, that game has so much wrong with it it's unplayable).

I want a game that has complex character develpment and requires a lot of strategy to make your guy tough

I want a kickass storyline

I want ridiculously large environment with ridiculous view distance. I want to be able to see that mountain in the background 5 or 10 miles away and then actually be able to get to it eventually.

I want multiplayer, not necessarily MMORPG style but at least 4-8 players on a lan or something.

I want it to be visually incredible

I want totally interactive environments to the point where everything you interact with matters in some way

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I could also go for a good new fighter. Tekken Tag Tournament was awesome and it's been all downhill for the genre from there.

Similarly, I could use a good TBS game. SMAC was awesome and it's been all downhill from there, too. Lucky for everyone, we're making Candle'Bre (eventually )

	21-05-2003 03:30									#28
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike I want ridiculously large environment with ridiculous view distance. I want to be able to see that mountain in the background 5 or 10 miles away and then actually be able to get to it eventually. I want it to be visually incredible

There is a MMORPG that is making this one of it's main features - Dark and Light

Some choice screenshots:







And a Trailer.

	21-05-2003 04:20									#29
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Looks cool

	21-05-2003 04:27									#30
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My favorite games are like those old Sid Meier games like Pirates and Sword of the Samurai- action/adventure games where you can enter higher and higher strata of strategy in the game.