17-05-2003 19:47									#1
	Restart ACDG(2) ? Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

In light of some problems that have arisen just recently there is the suggestion from Googlie, if I understand it correctly, that we could restart the game.

New passwords would be issued, as passwords, as far as we know, cannot be changed once the game has started.

For most we're just one turn in and it should be relatively simple to repeat the same moves, quickly. In fact Googlie can compare 2nd outcome with the first. I am not sure though about pod pop outcomes.

Our rules? would be amended to ban defections.

On the otherhand, we could accept Tass's and the Hive assurances of fair play.
GT's co - mod function would be adjusted and another UoP player play the same Uop 2103 moves.

In short we could just carry on.

	17-05-2003 19:55									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

We're only a turn in, so yeah, I agree. Makes no significant difference, seeing as the same moves can be repeated. There are three discrepancies that need sorting out, and for the purposes of a few hours' game time, it seems pointless not restarting.

	17-05-2003 19:56									#3
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

You could PW protect the ZipFile if you really want...
then only the Teamleader of the Team moving before them and the Faction could access the Saves .. presto

But OTOH it IS only one Turn.

	17-05-2003 20:42									#4
	Remove this text

Possibly a good move, though is it really necessary? I don't have much of an opinion on this, it would solves a few problems, but might mean we lose players who become disinterested because of it.

Googlie has said restart might be a good idea, and as CMN, I will go with that.

	17-05-2003 20:59									#5
	Tired of ads?

I've prepped the restart, and assigned new passwords.

Before posting the passwords in the appropriate faction threads, and hanging the first turn on the general turn reporting thread I'm awaiting confirmation from MarkG that GeneralTacitus is blocked from all but the UoP private forums

G

	17-05-2003 22:08									#6
	Put an end to popups!

Let's get the restarted turn up to date while we're waiting for MarkG.

We'll do it like a regular PBEM - I'll e-mail the passwords to the turnplayer with instructions to send the turn on by e-mail to the next in line, and send the restarted Hive, 2102 to Voltaire

Don't post the passwords in your private forums until MarkG's confirmation.

G.

	18-05-2003 00:12									#7
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I hope were not doing this because of me?

	18-05-2003 00:35									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Well, partly (from now on defections are banned - if a player leaves a faction, he leaves the game - but you are 'grandfathered')

Partly as well as GeneralTacitus has moderator rights to all the private faction forums, and most have their passwords reported there, so to remove temptation we've asked MarkG to remove that privelege, and I've issed new, not yet posted, passwords.

G.

	18-05-2003 00:44									#9
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Googlie Well, partly

Thats not good, for I'm not going to reveal anything.

quote: (from now on defections are banned - if a player leaves a faction, he leaves the game - but you are 'grandfathered')

I do not recall a vote on this

quote: Partly as well as GeneralTacitus has moderator rights to all the private faction forums, and most have their passwords reported there, so to remove temptation we've asked MarkG to remove that privelege, and I've issed new, not yet posted, passwords. G.

Hmm.....I dont think GT would ever do such a thing.

	18-05-2003 01:23									#10
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Tass:

I honestly believe that you will be honourable and reveal nothing, and that GT won't snoop, but if there is an easy way to ensure that safeguards are put in place to prevent it, I'd be derelict in my duty as a CMN not to do so.

This is a high profile game that is unleashing the creativity of many Aploytoners, spawning artwork, literature and philosophical discussions. And as the game progresses, the profile will increase, and in-forum needlings and bragging rights will get exercised.

You're right - it's not about winning a PBEM, but having fun in RPing and in creating a "virtual society", but let's not be naive - there will be kudos for the victors - and some gloating - and it's to forestall the very temptation to gain an advantage by "having a peek" that this restart is timely.

And better we deal with it now than in fifty turns' time

I've pontificated enough, let's get on with the game and the fun

GG.

	18-05-2003 07:43									#11
	Got spare money?

MarkG has already made sure I can't enter other teams' private fora. I informed him some time ago, and he fixed it...

	18-05-2003 08:27									#12
	Increase Your PM Length

Great - then we're rolling

G.