15-07-2003 11:14									#271
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Rickety vs. Frozzy - Frozzy resigns turn 72

Things were going swimmingly. I had finished the Labyrinth, close to completing Ramayana, had 10 cities, scouts all over the place, then I met the Roman nation and they started killing my horses and warriors left right and centre. Then my Labyrinth city was taken by invisible Romans, and my capital was taken by invisible barbarians.

I didn't want to continue after this: My position was destroyed, infrastructure was out of position, and I didn't feel comfortable knowing I didn't have a clue where my enemy was.

Good game Rickety, especially as we were close until this bug occured. Fancy another?

	15-07-2003 11:47									#272
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Do you have copies of the turns I would like to see them if I can?

	15-07-2003 13:37									#273
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Rickety vs. Frozzy - Frozzy resigns turn 72 .. Good game Rickety, especially as we were close until this bug occured. Fancy another?

does anyone have any experience with that mod that saves the turn automatically after each AI's turn ?
since saving will kill the bugs that appeared during your own turn, im curious to find out if regular saving during each and every turn will kill each and every bug...

	15-07-2003 16:21									#274
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Do you have copies of the turns I would like to see them if I can?

I have copies Blackice, which ones do you mean, just the last few? I'll zip and email the last few to you.

	15-07-2003 18:17									#275
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*8. Chlg 8 ricketyclik def. Frozzy; Started Aug-2002 -- Finished Jul-2003; Turns 72.

Congrats Ricketyclik

	15-07-2003 18:20									#276
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Not the best of circumstances under which to get a win, but I guess I'll take it being a man of very little shame

Rematch about to begin...

	16-07-2003 08:38									#277
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Math did nameloop not do the trick?

Wow talk about glich city I doubt I have ever seen a game that buggy.... Quite astounding.

Good to see a rematch you guys might concider using no ai and or less ai next time/

	16-07-2003 08:53									#279
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Turn 0 off to Ricketyclik.

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quote: Originally posted by blackice Math did nameloop not do the trick?

is nameloop the patch you (?) sent me ?
i must admit i didnt try it yet.

	16-07-2003 17:37									#281
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It should work

	17-07-2003 07:40									#282
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65. Chlg 65 Frozzy vs ricketyclik; Started Jul-2003 -- In progress.

	20-07-2003 04:15									#283
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*59. Chlg 59 quinns def. Mathemagician (Resigned); Started May-2003; Finished Jul-2003; Turns 132.

Thanks for the game, Math.

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you're welcome. im still puzzled how fast you could build up such a military, economy and whatever else.
rematch whenever you like.

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Congrats Quinns .

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Thanks, Solver!

	21-07-2003 12:22									#287
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one sunny day, quinns, i'll beat you with a strategy that actually is fun to use.

or, as solver would say:
"I can beat you whenever i please... but not today."

	21-07-2003 18:14									#288
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quote: or, as solver would say: "I can beat you whenever i please... but not today."

I wonder if Troll gets his butt kicked... now that's one guy I want to face 1v1 online someday .

	21-07-2003 22:06									#289
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician one sunny day, quinns, i'll beat you with a strategy that actually is fun to use. or, as solver would say: "I can beat you whenever i please... but not today."

Define what "fun" means to you

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quote: Originally posted by Solver quote: or, as solver would say: "I can beat you whenever i please... but not today." I wonder if Troll gets his butt kicked... now that's one guy I want to face 1v1 online someday .

I do..sometimes..and sometimes feel like the weight of da world has crushed me!

I would cherish the opportunity to play you sir..Trolldom has not the Gulag Solver-Hall has to off..be very afraid..no ammenities..just Pain!!



Peace

Grandpa Troll

	21-07-2003 23:58									#291
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Grandpa, you're hillarious .

	22-07-2003 20:39									#292
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quote: Originally posted by quinns Define what "fun" means to you

- adapting your decisions to the settings and occurences of the actual game.
- seeing your cities grow
- building loads of infrastructure
- different strategies facing off and not being pre-decided by strategy choice
- kicking your ass

	25-07-2003 13:46									#293
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Milamber has beaten and cowed me into submission at turn 131.

Wave after wave of pikemen, ships of lines, cannons, musketeers and cavalry overwhelmed my poor nation, whittling it down to a mere skerick.

Alas.

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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician - adapting your decisions to the settings and occurences of the actual game. - seeing your cities grow - building loads of infrastructure - different strategies facing off and not being pre-decided by strategy choice - kicking your ass

I see. But how did that differ from what happened in our game? Did you look at my last turn? I adapted my strategy to my forest and tundra starting position ; many cities were growing; much infra structure being built; a different strategy against you that does not like a militaristic opponent (did you expect me to play into your strengths instead of your weaknesses?); oh... and I kicked your ass! I met all the criteria of "fun", so what is the problem?!

	25-07-2003 20:48									#295
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik Milamber has beaten and cowed me into submission at turn 131. Wave after wave of pikemen, ships of lines, cannons, musketeers and cavalry overwhelmed my poor nation, whittling it down to a mere skerick. Alas.

Congratulations, Milamber!

*51. Chlg 51 Milamber def. ricketyclik; Started Apr-2003 -- Finished July 2003; Turns 132.

	25-07-2003 20:56									#296
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quote: Originally posted by quinns I see. But how did that differ from what happened in our game? Did you look at my last turn? I adapted my strategy to my forest and tundra starting position ; many cities were growing; much infra structure being built; a different strategy against you that does not like a militaristic opponent (did you expect me to play into your strengths instead of your weaknesses?); oh... and I kicked your ass! I met all the criteria of "fun", so what is the problem?!

I said kicking your ass.

	25-07-2003 20:59									#297
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Oh... I see. Maybe next time!

	25-07-2003 21:24									#298
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seriously quinns, the game didnt have a long 'build-up' phase ?
and what did you mean by playing into my strengths instead of my weaknesses ?
are you usually building even less infrastructure ?
oh and these roads down to our border dont count. besides, i had arctic on my side and you tundra, so i wasnt able to build roads there.

	25-07-2003 21:50									#299
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician seriously quinns, the game didnt have a long 'build-up' phase ? and what did you mean by playing into my strengths instead of my weaknesses ? are you usually building even less infrastructure ? oh and these roads down to our border dont count. besides, i had arctic on my side and you tundra, so i wasnt able to build roads there.

The 'build-up' IS your strength... So that answers both of your first questions. But in a challenge match, Math, the build up couldn't have gone on much longer because of the 4xPG rule. Even if I hadn't attacked you, I believe I would have reached the 4xPG mark in another 5 turns, and the game would have ended anyway. I was already 3.5xPG before I captured any of your cities.

And when you say "infrastructure", you do mean mines, roads, farms, and fisheries... Right? And if you look again, I had all of those going wherever I could. What other roads did you expect I should build?

	25-07-2003 21:53									#300
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ahhh nevermind. i just screwed up.