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ricketyclik is offline ricketyclik
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Ok..here I am..looking and ready to try a game...

Quinns told me this is the Launch pad so to speak..

soooooooooooooo....

I would enjoy having a game...maybe 1 vs 1 pbem...

Let me know if anyone wants to get their rooster feathers all worked up beating up a geritol-laden (unlike the dirty rotten Osama Bid-laden ) Grandpa Troll

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Ok..here I am..looking and ready to try a game...

Quinns told me this is the Launch pad so to speak..

soooooooooooooo....

I would enjoy having a game...maybe 1 vs 1 pbem...

Let me know if anyone wants to get their rooster feathers all worked up beating up a geritol-laden (unlike the dirty rotten Osama Bid-laden ) Grandpa Troll

Peace

Grandpa Troll



if you start talking in a way i can understand you, i might give you a fight.

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if you start talking in a way i can understand you, i might give you a fight.


Biddest me chance to enquire, that if thou owneth this Gauntlet which appeareth to have been launched from your lofty perch?

Ifit be so..then..(ahem) me lady..let da fur flyeth!




Peace

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  Old Post 21-06-2003 12:12
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too bad. and i was hoping for another game..

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too bad. and i was hoping for another game..


Yeah Math..I was too..maybe I can find someone whom speaks English a wee bit better , because from what I have seen, the storyline can be (at least on my part it WILL be) half the fun!

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that might be a good idea then.

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that might be a good idea then.


Ok..lets talk about it some...maybe you and I can have a go at it..kinda have a storyline as mentioned, I am a 44 year old salty-Ham type..lots of imagination, limited proper ettiquette and even less true depiction of the way english composition should be put forth in writing!

At any rate..lets talk about the setup..

please no scenario/modifications..

Im off to bed now..woke up with a little oldfashioned case of heartburn..my pizza didnt set well, and was setting in my throat, so the acid...well..your not my doctor and that will have to be another story!!

Peace

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okay, trollman.
i accept any settings as long as i get to know them before the game and as long as it is a donut world.
but see, though i appreciate a good storyline - i write some stories about my games myself occasionally - im more the competitive guy.
i have currently 7 or so games running and its the thrill of playing the best (you guys in here ) that im seeking.

so im hoping for a thrilling story troll

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Ok..Heres what I propose:

Regular Size

you and me and 2 ai

Wet-2 (Close to wet side)

Warm-1 (Close to warm side)

Land-1 (Close to Land side)

Continent-1 (Close to Continent side)

Uniform-1 (Close to uniform side)

FEW goods-1 (Close to FEW goods side)

Pollution OFF

Blooslust ON

Diety Level

Dougnut World is great by me!

Have fun enjoy.

I dont know tricks or cheats so I dont like them.

Just play and have fun my Deutche friend!

I would like to be "Troll-Two Feathers" of Native Americans.


Any suggestions other than that?


Peace

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oh does that mean you dont want to use the farm under city bug ?

im a little surprised that you used only 1s and 2s for the measurements. do you really mean to only use sliders very close to the edge ?
i mean, its okay, just checking.

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oh does that mean you dont want to use the farm under city bug ?

im a little surprised that you used only 1s and 2s for the measurements. do you really mean to only use sliders very close to the edge ?
i mean, its okay, just checking.


I dont know about the use of farm under city bug?


As for near edge, yes..but we can move them if you like Math?


I usually use these settings in Multiplayer games and they do well...but please..share what you like?

I chose few goods..to make more competitive for a tougher economy!

I am off to a funeral..will return after several hours...let me know...I am looking forward my friend!

Peace

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farm under city bug means you can build a farm, a mine or whatever on a tile during the same round as you build a city on that tile, but just before the city.
this way, the improvement you build will be finished and not be cancelled by the founding of the city as usual.

i usually like to use this bug (not even sure if this is the bug or the fact that otherwise the improvement disappears) as it gives more options to build an effective economy, for example if you should get stuck on a small island or otherwise infertile land.

also, somehow my follow-up post asking for whether to use wonders, ruins and piracy apparently didnt get through, so im asking again now.

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well, birdman, what you did was your own calculated risk.
that isnt what we are talking about, is it ?
we were talking about the graphics bug causing you to lose the game !

as for ruin tiles:
to my experience, until before 3000 BC ruins never bring about barbarians, and if the ruin was 2 tiles away from your capital, why didnt you enter it much earlier ?

oh, and how cold did it get between your legs ? brrr


To take your last question first:

Very-very-very cold. My b.lls felt like they was just disappearing……….. and my stomach was ….. what do you call it – squeezing?!

Then the next (from below): I don’t know, simply can’t remember any more! Maybe I did “think” about the risk and let my warrior (I always start with a warrior, that I am sure of) go to see if there was any goodies near my capitol instead of looking into something un-certain?! And then forgot why I earlier decided not to enter the tile, my capitol was afterall undefended......

See, not all moves/choices I do are “cool” calculated risks – actually I do like the game and I sometimes plays like a nut. And sometimes I am playing when I should not , usually in the late evenings

And finally: Yes, it is actually what we are talking about – replay or not (with or without agreement of your opponent - does he feel "sorry" for you or not - let you replay your lastest turn?!?!).

My problem is, that I usually play "safe" in the "small" situations but often make smaller (or larger) blunders when I plan several turns ahed. But I am learning........ learning.

And recently, I have been teached by Hatchy how to play the nuke-game - he is just a master here .

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And finally: Yes, it is actually what we are talking about – replay or not (with or without agreement of your opponent - does he feel "sorry" for you or not - let you replay your lastest turn?!?!).


no it is not !
we (or at least i) were talking about a situation that seemed harmless due to graphic bugs, when in fact it was a huge danger.
entering a ruins you know is 2 tiles away from your undefended capitol is something different.

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Well - then you are talking about one thing - and I about another. And that is that .

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apparently.
of course i wont suggest that you may take back moves where you did something tactically wrong like entering a ruins at risk.
im only suggesting the backtrack for those cases where the graphics bug was responsible for you losing the game, which is really really unfair in my eyes.

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im not sure, does a slaver count as a military unit for guarding slaves in a city ?

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quote:
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farm under city bug means you can build a farm, a mine or whatever on a tile during the same round as you build a city on that tile, but just before the city.
this way, the improvement you build will be finished and not be cancelled by the founding of the city as usual.

i usually like to use this bug (not even sure if this is the bug or the fact that otherwise the improvement disappears) as it gives more options to build an effective economy, for example if you should get stuck on a small island or otherwise infertile land.

also, somehow my follow-up post asking for whether to use wonders, ruins and piracy apparently didnt get through, so im asking again now.


Ok..so you dont actually wait for the tile improvement to finish..just place improvement then build city?

I guess I am confused..do you let the improvement become complete, THEN build city..or just place the improvement, then city?

Ok..in pbem..how can you turn off ruins?

How can you turn off wonders?

How can you keep ai from pirating/pillaging?

I know how in going through data files..but was that what you meant?


Keep me posted!

Thanks

Looking forward!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

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Ok..so you dont actually wait for the tile improvement to finish..just place improvement then build city?

I guess I am confused..do you let the improvement become complete, THEN build city..or just place the improvement, then city?


its funny. ive been explaining this for so many times and still havent found a wording that everyone immediately understands.
well, as i (think ive) said, you FIRST start to build the improvement, then ON THE SAME TURN found the city, you get the city IMMEDIATELY and the improvement UNDER the city once it would normally be finished, e.g. a farm under the city 2 turns after the founding of the city.

quote:

Ok..in pbem..how can you turn off ruins?

How can you turn off wonders?

How can you keep ai from pirating/pillaging?

I know how in going through data files..but was that what you meant?



that was what i meant, yes.
didnt want to cause confusions.
i was just checking if you wanted any specific variations from the standard, which for me is wonders ON, ruins ON, piracy ON, but the standard defined by quinns on top of this thread is wonders OFF, ruins OFF, piracy (?), so just wanting to make sure we have the same understanding of "standard settings" before we start the game.

ruins can be turn off by setting the RUINS_CHANCE_PER_BOX value in "const.txt" in the folder "\CTP\ctp_data\default\gamedata\" from 1.0 (default) to 0.0.
this needs only last while the game is created, so after the first turn is played, you can set the value back to 1.0 again.

wonders cannot be turned off AFAIK, so human players simply dont build wonders if they agreed not to. AIs still build the wonders though.

same thing for pillaging/piracy. AIs see that as their naturally born right (as i experienced recently in an otherwise "no-piracy" game with checkmate) so they continue as they like.
just the human players can stick to the agreement no to use these.

quote:

Keep me posted!

Thanks

Looking forward!

Peace

Grandpa Troll


Okay !
De rien !
Me too !
Ommmmm !
Math

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Ok..you and I agree to NO WONDERS..I can live with that.

I say No Piracy/No Pillaging by humans..I can live with that
Ruins..hmm..lets leave that on..please


I can start whenever you want


I now understand the farm/city trick..kewl with me..

So...you want me to launch the gam,e..or you?

my email is BCRONKITE@ec.rr.com

my name in game is Troll Two Feathers..

Native American please

let me know when

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thats all fine for me.
i'll set it up now. but i will likely not make any more turn today as im going to bed soon.
as for the NO piracy/pillage/wonders. just remind me if i should forget. i collect the info in a seperate text file, but just in case...

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thats all fine for me.
i'll set it up now. but i will likely not make any more turn today as im going to bed soon.
as for the NO piracy/pillage/wonders. just remind me if i should forget. i collect the info in a seperate text file, but just in case...


Ok..lets see the game name...what shall we call it...

Troll and Math just dont add up?

U pick a name..

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new challenge game started:
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turn 0 sent to Troll.

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one more note:
i consider the "1" on the slider to be the second to last setting, as "0" would have been the very extreme.
i hope thats how you imagined it.
barbarian threat was set to maximum either.
so watch out !

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quote:
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new challenge game started:
Mathemagician vs. Troll

turn 0 sent to Troll.


Havent gotten turn yet?

Also..you set up a new game thread please.

my email is BCRONKITE@ec.rr.com

Ill be waiting

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strange, i have sent it already. anyway, here it comes again.
my email, btw is mathemagician@gmx.de

new thread ? for a 2 people game ?

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strange, i have sent it already. anyway, here it comes again.
my email, btw is mathemagician@gmx.de

new thread ? for a 2 people game ?


WEll, we dont want to tie up this thread do we?

Ok..to make sure i am doing this right, dont you email me with an attachment?

I am new to this PBEM thing..but I have yet to receive any emails except this thread post?

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WEll, we dont want to tie up this thread do we?



well, what this thread is for is to set up the game and to chat a bit about the storyline that you love so much.
i think there is no need for a new thread. we wont have much to say there and the little we do have to tell can as well go here and amuse some people.

quote:

Ok..to make sure i am doing this right, dont you email me with an attachment?

I am new to this PBEM thing..but I have yet to receive any emails except this thread post?


ive sent it twice to you.
maybe your email address was wrong.
i suggest you email me at mathemagician@gmx.de so i have your correct address for sure.

 
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