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4 dead so far
sozens of injuries


mods either close the previous thread, or unite it with this one, but then please change the title to update current news.

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She blew up when a security guard was checking her.

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On a related information:

The Israeli Security Agency (formerly GSS, aka Shin Bet) arrested 8 palestinians, some of them of Israeli citizenship living in Jerusalem. According to the suspicions, they intended to kidnap a whole busload of passengers and hide it in the Palestinian territories. They inteded to demand the release of high ranking Palestinian prisoners from Israeli jails.

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A 15 year old girl-suicide bomber was arrested earlier today.

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How´d you interpret this new series of terror attacks? Are the radicals at the Palestinian side on the way to "dismantle" the new PM? Or do they try to use such attacks as "power play" for coming negotiations?

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On a related issue:

The Israeli Foreign Ministry (IFM) yesterday called a special debriefing of foreign journalists covering the Israeli Palestinian conflict, and showed them exclusive explicit documentation of the results of terrorist suicide bombings.

"So far, we have refrained from 'marketing blood'" said IFM spokesperson in an interview to Maariv paper. (paraphrased) "But we must understand that the Palestinians are. They are shooting on film, and sending to major networks every event, together with it's horrific results. And it's working. We refrained from doing that, because it's low. But for a while now, reporters here take suicide bombings as non-events, and report on them very casually. We had to change that."(/paraphraised)

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According to Israeli intelligence, the terrorist wave is aimed to undermine the authority of new Palestinian PM Abu Mazen. The terrorist factions have started a new wave after recieving a green light from.... I'll let you guess.

Didn't you notice that there were practically no terrorist attacks during the war in Iraq? Some strange hand didn't want it to look bad for Pals...

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Siro :

There were still close to 50 warnings about attacks in the making during every day of the last few months.

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These things never stop, do they? Does IDF take volunteers? I bet they do. Maybe I should give a call to the embassy, maybe they can work something out.

Siro, who's the buttface in your avatar?

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These things never stop, do they? Does IDF take volunteers? I bet they do. Maybe I should give a call to the embassy, maybe they can work something out.


I know that many Jews from around the world volunteer to do guarding and patrol duties and that many Israeli 60-70 year olds veterans volunteer too, but I dont know whether gentiles are also alowed.

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Ugly, right?

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Following recent intelligence tips:

Many Israeli cities are cut off. Many roadblocks set up by police in Afula and other towns in the western north of Israel.

Apparently there is a possibility that more terrorists have left for Israel, and reached the same geographical area.

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Pekka: I'm sure gentiles are allowed. I'm also sure that you can undergo Gyur quickly these days

The person in my avatar is me at age 6.
Eli - you didn't get accepted



Police is searching for the escaping car that brought the terrorist to the scene.

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Eli, well I guess they know in the embassy.
Nah that face is not ugly, I was jsut wondering who he is, because I know Siro doesn't have any kids and I don't recognize this guy being celeb, so I'm just wondering who he is. Maybe some celeb as a kid, the hair would indicate 70s..?

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To remind you - today is the evening of a holiday that is celebrated only by children. The celebrations include kids setting up campfires all around the place from about 7pm, so many many children are right now shopping for meat and marshmallows.

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It's you?
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Eli - you didn't get accepted


Screw you.

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major update
In the immediate hours prior to the terrorist attack, Israeli Minister of Defence (and former Chief of Staff) Shaul Mofaz, told reporters that following Arafat's efforts to derail the recent peace efforts attempted by Bush, his "removal" is up for reconsideration.

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Eli - sorry that was under the buckle

I promise to not consult you whenever something really important comes up

update
19 injured, 5 of them critical. some are flown to a major hospital in haifa, which I can see from my window.

The security guard was also female and is dead.

4 casualties so far not including the bomber.

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unsubstantiated: almost 40 injured.

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The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

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So many innocents lost when the solution seems so close


Unfortunately not so. We are dealing with people who will not rest until Israel is no more. There is no compromise with Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

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Again, again, and again When will this end ? When will this madness stop ?


When someone finally does something about the source of the problem.

Now, let's stop here and consider for a while before answering this question.

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major update
In the immediate hours prior to the terrorist attack, Israeli Minister of Defence (and former Chief of Staff) Shaul Mofaz, told reporters that following Arafat's efforts to derail the recent peace efforts attempted by Bush, his "removal" is up for reconsideration.


Could it be? Could the source of the problem be removed?

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Siro, Why doesn't Israel simply present the evidence of Arafat's complicity to the news Palestinian government and demand that Arafat be arrested?

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Ned, that's a good and legit question.

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Siro, Why doesn't Israel simply present the evidence of Arafat's complicity to the news Palestinian government and demand that Arafat be arrested?


Cause some things aren't politically viable? The new Palestinian government is weak and would be either not willing or not capable of doing so. (Though if they were able to do so, it would probably give them a lot more stability and respect as a government).

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Siro, Why doesn't Israel simply present the evidence of Arafat's complicity to the news Palestinian government and demand that Arafat be arrested?


hi ,

cause that would be an undemocratic thing to do , ....

and the whole world is against us , .....

plenty of evidence around , ....

have a nice day

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These things never stop, do they? Does IDF take volunteers? I bet they do. Maybe I should give a call to the embassy, maybe they can work something out.

Siro, who's the buttface in your avatar?


hi ,

, machal , .....

PM for more details

so want to join , ...

have a nice day

Eli , in need of a better job

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hi ,

cause that would be an undemocratic thing to do , ....

and the whole world is against us , .....

plenty of evidence around , ....

have a nice day


panag, according to a report, al Aqsa and Hamas cooperated in the most recent attacks. They are both being financed through Lebanon and Iran. Hamas has said their Jihad will extend to the new prime minister if he tries to stop the bombings. al Aqsa is controlled by Arafat.

IIRC correctly, the roadmap calls for an end to terror attacks as part of the "progess" towards a Pal state. But is the a "condition?"

Regardless, it looks like there has to be a civil war in Palenstine before Abbas can take control. But will he even try?

From the Pal side, they say that Israel has to make concessions to avoid a civil war? But, why are Aqsa and Hamas still trying to disrupt the Peace process? They say they want to destroy Israel. I do not see how any concessions will advance peace with these folks given their agenda.

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panag, according to a report, al Aqsa and Hamas cooperated in the most recent attacks. They are both being financed through Lebanon and Iran. Hamas has said their Jihad will extend to the new prime minister if he tries to stop the bombings. al Aqsa is controlled by Arafat.

IIRC correctly, the roadmap calls for an end to terror attacks as part of the "progess" towards a Pal state. But is the a "condition?"

Regardless, it looks like there has to be a civil war in Palenstine before Abbas can take control. But will he even try?

From the Pal side, they say that Israel has to make concessions to avoid a civil war? But, why are Aqsa and Hamas still trying to disrupt the Peace process? They say they want to destroy Israel. I do not see how any concessions will advance peace with these folks given their agenda.


hi ,

how many times where documents found with his sig , or abou's sig , .....

why they dont war , cause they dont know any better , simple , its a reason d'etre for them , ..... its way to easy to earn your living with narcotics and gun running then to do an honest job , .....

we allready did huge concessions to these people , we gave them the guns like agreed in oslo , ... the guns they use today to shoot at us , ..... we trusted them , we said , 'héy' we have to start somewhere , .... it got us nowhere , ....

the new roadmap , pffff , ones again people who know zip sh't , nada nothing shall tell us what to do , .... russian dont they have problems themselfs , .....

sheer madness

have a nice day

 
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