19-05-2003 19:52									#1
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I reckon we have lots of experts here. Can you recommend me classical piano music? Sorry I don't know how to narrow down, but lately I have found myself listening few great songs and somehow I find myself crying like a little baby listening to these. I don't know why, but I do. I'm a guy who never cries, so I find this feeling pretty good. So can you recommend me any nice songs? Make me cry!

	19-05-2003 19:53									#2
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Oh, and I like those sad themes. You know the ones that makes your heart ache and close your eyes.. I want those.

	19-05-2003 20:07									#3
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Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is a must for you, then. In fact, I'd recommend starting with the Beethoven sonatas, especially Moonlight, Waldstein and Pathetique.

Chopin is your man for the really emotional Romantic era stuff, especially his etudes. Brahms should also be high on your list, including his ever-popular Waltz no. 15 in A, the Hungarian dances (careful, most sets are orchestrated these days), and Op. 116, 117, 118 and 119. You can get the complete Brahms solo piano works in a complete set featuring Julius Katchen, and it is superb.

You can also find Bach's keyboard works on piano, and the Glen Gould edition really can't be beat.

If you're not opposed to concertos, (piano+orchestra), Beethoven's Emperor concerto is wonderful, and Brahms's 2nd Piano Concert in D is perhaps the greatest ever written for the genre. Brahms also has beautiful works for piano and chamber ensemble, such as the Piano Quartets and the magnificent Piano Quintet in F minor.

Mozart's piano works are lovely, but they don't really stir much passion, IMO. Anna Magdalena's Notebook is the standard here.

After that, I'd check out some Debussy, Ravel and Rakhmaninov for the late 19th/early 20th century examples.

	19-05-2003 20:12									#4
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Thanks a lot Boris! I'll definitely check these out..

	19-05-2003 20:32									#5
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I dont know if u'll like them but

Adante favori
Fur Elise
Jesus bleibet meine Freude
Moonlight Sonanata 3rd mov.
liebestraum


are the piano ones i like.

	19-05-2003 20:37									#6
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For something completely different.

Bartok's 3 piano concertos are brilliant.

Bach played on the piano is also rewarding. The Canadian pianist Angela Hewitt has recently made some wonderful recordings of his keyboard music.

	19-05-2003 21:17									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Zero Jesus bleibet meine Freude

Otherwise known as Bach's "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring." You have a piano version? It was written as a chorale...interesting! The usual keyboard transcription is for organ.

quote: liebestraum

As opposed to Lebensraum. Not to be confused.

	19-05-2003 21:20									#8
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I like also Frantz Liszt, particularly the Preludes and the Hungarian Rhapsodies, both of easy access.

	19-05-2003 21:24									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Otherwise known as Bach's "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring." You have a piano version? It was written as a chorale...interesting! The usual keyboard transcription is for organ.

I have piano as well as various other intrsument ver.

	19-05-2003 21:51									#10
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June is a particular favorite of mine

and the last nice peace I played (played it 5 years ago)_

Jon Miller

	19-05-2003 23:38									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov You can also find Bach's keyboard works on piano, and the Glen Gould edition really can't be beat.

Yes, his versions of Goldberg's Variation are great. If you go to a place that lets you listen to CDs, try to listen to the 50s version (57?) and the 80s version (83?).

The 80s version has a slower tempo. Some like the faster pace, others the slower one.

You'll recognise the music. Bits of it have been in lots of movies.

	19-05-2003 23:44									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller June is a particular favorite of mine and the last nice peace I played (played it 5 years ago)_ Jon Miller

tchaikovsky

my favorite is october

	20-05-2003 01:32									#13
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You could always check out the evilest composition ever (aka Johann Pachelbel's Canon in D).

	20-05-2003 02:34									#14
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St. Leo, what's so evil with Pachelbels Canon? It's not the worst composition ever, it's not the most difficult, it's not the most ruined by stupid musicians ...

	20-05-2003 02:37									#15
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Toccatta's and Fugues are awful on the piano especially Bach peices... leaving to the organ

	20-05-2003 03:08									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Adalbertus St. Leo, what's so evil with Pachelbels Canon? It's not the worst composition ever, it's not the most difficult, it's not the most ruined by stupid musicians ...

It is, however, one of the most overplayed and cliched. I myself find that it goes on just a bit to long and starts to wear out its welcome.

It isn't nearly as bad as Ravel's Bolero, though. For the life of me, I can't understand how such an obnoxious composition has become so popular (perhaps second only in irritatingness to Katchachurian's godawful Sabre Dance). Then again, neither could Ravel understand, as he was also disgusted in its popularity, since he didn't intend it to be a performance piece.

	20-05-2003 04:03									#17
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OMG the moonlight is godlike!!!


just telling y a pekka, it's a freaking must have!!

Btw I can play the für elise, on teh piano of course

I suck hugely though...
Just pointing out that i'm a culturally educated boy

	20-05-2003 04:35									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Adalbertus St. Leo, what's so evil with Pachelbels Canon? It's not the worst composition ever, it's not the most difficult, it's not the most ruined by stupid musicians ...

I love it myself, but, like Boris explained, people who are hardc0rely into Classical get to hear it too often and become sick of it.

	20-05-2003 04:40									#19
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Chopin Funeral March

	20-05-2003 09:30									#20
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Chopin's Etude #1 from "Three Etudes' (wish I had an opus number for it) is quite depressing.

	20-05-2003 09:50									#21
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St. Leo, I'm a nearly exclusive listener and singer of Renaissance and Baroque music, and I get to listen the Canon once every other year . The Bolero even more rarely. I think the most raped classical music is "Eine kleine Nachtmusik", performed by every school orchestra, beginners group ...

Personally, I think the Bolero is great. I know only one other piece where the composer succeeded in keeping a crescendo going on for a whole movement (Bach's passacaglia in c minor for organ). And one other which failed (Beethoven's second movement of the 7th Symphony).
Admittedly, this is a different category than overplayed.