20-05-2003 04:02									#1
	The banana poll series - Part 2 Support Apolyton

New poll in our attempt to know civ players better.

	20-05-2003 05:46									#2
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why oh why didnt i vote banana

	20-05-2003 10:05									#3
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What is this banana poll thing? It's obviously a running joke / in-joke but I don't know why it started. Can anyone fill me in?

	20-05-2003 14:40									#4
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I love spaceship wicotry, but I also like to win by diplo from time to time, when I have enough with a game. I most often don't finish my games, because I always play on huge+ maps, and the waiting time at the end is too much (I know, I have it coming)

	20-05-2003 14:45									#5
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Banana is an old joke on 'Poly that you will find everywhere on this site. You can get more information in this thread. For all questions about Apolyton itself, I highly recommand you to check the Community Forum

	20-05-2003 15:45									#6
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Heh.. this poll would be much more interesting, if you had asked "which is your least favourite way of winning the game?"

What I like the most is conquest. It's a challenge.

What I dislike the most is cultural (except in the OCC). It allways sneaks up on you at the most inconvinient times - like just when you have build a huge army and are ready to launch some devastation on your mortal enemies

	20-05-2003 16:12									#7
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I quite always go for a spaceship victory: easy and sure. Sometimes I win diplomatically if it seems I will not achieve a space victory.
I never won by domination nor conquest (I am a builder).
I never won by points (it needs too much time and I am usually the first one by points when I launch my spaceship).
Never tried to win culturally (not enough wonders maybe).

	20-05-2003 16:12									#8
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Domination.

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	20-05-2003 20:15									#9
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Banana. UN if that's the only chance I've got. Others as it works out, dependent on how the game goes. I agree with aaglo that Cultural can be frustrating if you are working on a domination/conquest victory.

	20-05-2003 21:12									#10
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Banana. The game peters out way before victory.

	20-05-2003 21:25									#11
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Each time I try to go for a spaceship one, but always end up with a domination victory . Havn't even seen that movie..

	20-05-2003 21:40									#12
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I try to get a little of everything, but I normally quit my games before full time. Only tournament games and games that will reach my personal hall of fame will be played all the way.

I have turned cultural victory off, as that was the only way I won on Emperor for a while. It sneaks up on you and ruins the fun, just when you are about to invade that enemy continent with your modern armour.

	20-05-2003 23:23									#13
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I turn cultural victory off, now. It DOES sneak up quickly and ruin the fun. Domination seems cheap: why not go for Conquest when that strong? But Conquest victory is warmongering. Spaceship victory is fine if it's truly a race and I have to sabotage somebody else's, or go to war with them to slow them down. Diplomacy not possible for me, with all my warmongering. So maybe I should have voted for Conquest. But I voted Banana because I really want some new victory condition (and not princess, regicide, or silly flags).

	20-05-2003 23:47									#14
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If you achieve domination, conquest is just a matter of time a probably some tedious turns.
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Turning cultural off is not really fair to the AI IMO who doesn't realise this. It's not really cheating, but you do give yourself the option to neglect a very significant part of the game while the AI doesn't. (this is especially true on higher difficulty levels.)

	21-05-2003 00:00									#15
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Conquest

	21-05-2003 04:55									#16
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You forgot Histographic

	21-05-2003 05:23									#17
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Cultural please - since I'm only playing OCC at the moment

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	25-05-2003 10:02									#18
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quote: Originally posted by alva Turning cultural off is not really fair to the AI IMO who doesn't realise this. It's not really cheating, but you do give yourself the option to neglect a very significant part of the game while the AI doesn't. (this is especially true on higher difficulty levels.)

A bit late to respond, I know (hope you check Yer Threads once in a while), but I do not neglect cultural advances, buildings, and wonders (both small and great) as these are the reasons my borders expand. In current game (huge map--medium archipeligoes) I've been rushing harbors so resources are available, then rushing temples so borders expand. AI does not neglect culture; neither do I. Cultural Victory comes unexpectedly, thus I am not fond of it.
I continue to await the mysterious Banana Victory condition. I voted for it .

	25-05-2003 19:03									#19
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As a builder, I have always been fond of the spaceship and cultural victories

	25-05-2003 21:11									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Rob_S A bit late to respond, I know (hope you check Yer Threads once in a while), but I do not neglect cultural advances, buildings, and wonders (both small and great) as these are the reasons my borders expand. In current game (huge map--medium archipeligoes) I've been rushing harbors so resources are available, then rushing temples so borders expand. AI does not neglect culture; neither do I. Cultural Victory comes unexpectedly, thus I am not fond of it. I continue to await the mysterious Banana Victory condition. I voted for it .

I'm not saying you do, but you can.. If some AI happens to build multiple wonders i the same city far away from your little empire, there is no treat him winning culturaly and thus no pressure for you to do something about it . That's all

	25-05-2003 22:55									#21
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I used to play builder and usually had my choice of UN or space victory. Recently, in order to balance my play skills, I've been playing dark side emperor and I usually win by domination well before Fission. But, I must pay more attention to the cultural victory thing as I've never won one in spite of huge leads and everyone in awe. Hmmm...perhaps my first test of the new Beta!

	26-05-2003 07:38									#22
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Alva-- I see your point, but hadn't thought of it in that way. What bothers me about the cultural win is the way it crops up just when I'm about to invade a Civ I've had a long grudge against
Lately I've tossed aside a number of things that defined my normal strategy in Civ, and have been trying out different ideas. Turning off cultural win was one of them. I'm also turning regicide on more often, which makes me think much more about a stong defensive force at my capital. As America in my present game, I've been taking Lincoln out on a tour of the cities (with a strong guard) just for the fun of doing it.
I'll turn cultural win back on again, in a later game.
Experiment!

	26-05-2003 11:53									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Rob_S As America in my present game, I've been taking Lincoln out on a tour of the cities (with a strong guard) just for the fun of doing it.

you're a truly sick person

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	26-05-2003 12:00									#24
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quote: I'm also turning regicide on more often, which makes me think much more about a stong defensive force at my capital.

Be carefull with those victory options in SP.
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quote: What bothers me about the cultural win is the way it crops up just when I'm about to invade a Civ I've had a long grudge against

Yeah, those "you've won" pop-ups are very lame indeed.

	26-05-2003 17:18									#25
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hi ,

this should have been a multi choice poll , ....

several options , what ever comes first , aldo getting to 2050 without letting anyone else get victory is the most intresting

have a nice day