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Of Incas and Aztecs

Hundreds of years ago, two groups of people expanded from a tiny tribal village to encompass vast swathes of land and establish regional dominance. Those people were the Incas and Aztecs. In real life, around the early 1500's, foreign invaders came. The Spanish Conquistadors, as they were called, invaded and subjugated the land for the Spanish Empire, and the Incan-Aztec Empires ended. But what if...

1492-1512

In 1492, Colombus discovered America. He set up trading posts and colonies in the Carribean islands and soon more voyages were made. One voyage, made by Conquistador Pedro Mendoza, ran into a storm, crashing the vessel on the shores of Aztecia. Thousands of people came to greet the men, believing Mendoza was the god, Quetzoctacal. The men were led all through the Empire, seeing riches beyond their imagination. When the men returned to Spain, they told the King all about what they had seen. Elated by the news, the King assembled an invasion force of 1000 men, led by the Conquistador Hernando Cortez.

Something went horribly wrong with the invasion. In the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, the ships encountered another vicious storm, that destroyed half the fleet and whirled them off course onto Northern Mexico.

Marching through the harsh weather, another half of the expedition died along the way. By the time they reached Aztecia, only 200 of their soldiers remained. Not phased by the losses, Cortez boldy invaded the Aztec Empire. In the first battle, he met not stone tipped spears, not bows and arrows, but muskets and....horses. The expedition was slaughtered before word could reach back to the King.

As it turned out, French and British weapons had been supplied to the Aztecs and later to the Incas after they were discovered again by the Spanish. This would not be publicly know until the late 1700's, in which they cause a serious incident in Europe. Those weapons (and later on, missionaries and scientists) were secretly shipped to the Empires until it was clear they could fend for themselves. They had preserved the Incan and Aztec Empires and changed the course of history.

American Revolution-1800

In the time leading up to the revolution, very little out of the ordinary happened. England, the Netherlands, France, Portugal, and Spain all established clonies on the New World. Infact, the only thing worth mentioning was a brief war between the Incan Empire and Spain, which resulted in the loss of much of Northern South America to the Incas. But then the normality stopped.

In 1877, the colonists of England's New World rebelled, citing the continuing taxation of the colonies, quartering, and no parliament representation as reasons.

While England fough the colonists, the Aztec Empire secretly shipped weapons and supplies to them. The Incan Empire found out, though, and the already shaky realtions between the two countries, exploded into a World War.

The Aztecs and Colonists had French and Portuguese support, while the English had Spanish and Incan backing. The Dutch continually supplied both sides.

The war in the North looked at first to be won by the English when they captured New York and Boston, stopping American trade. But the tide swifted as Aztec reinforcements under Trazdec recaptured the battered south and joined Washington to retake New York and Boston.

In South America, most of the fighting was done in Columbia vs. he superior tech of the Aztecs. The Incans had numbers though, and by wars end the Aztecs had been forced into a stalemate.

In Europe, the fighting was quickly resolved as France forced Spain inot submission and England signed a truec with Portugal and France to deal with the colonists.

By wars end, America was free, the Aztecs had annexed Florida and Southern Calfornia from Spain, and the Incans had taken half the Amazon from Portugal.

The war had cost millions, lasted 10 years, and had shed almost 1,000,000 lives (mainly in South America and Europe).

And another new crisis was growing, the conflict on the soverignty of the Central American Territory.


Here are some strategies for the beginning stages of a game.

Great Britain- The best strategy for Britain is to make use of your vast amounts of land. Use India, Australia, and Canada's cities to power the British military whilst making sure you keep safe from France. A good ally to have against France is Russia, but if that cannot be arranged, Austria is a viable option.

Napoleonic France- Along with the Aztecs, Incas, and Russians, you are the most powerful in the world. Your first problem is the Italian and Prussian Nationalists who have a sizeable force and could damage your infrastructure. After dealing with them, your next openent is the British. Their military isnt as strong as yours but it has the potential. A good tactic to use against the British is to get America, Ottoman Empire, and Russia on your side so that you can strike almost any British possesion. Be careful of to many wars, though, you are a republic.

Austria-Hungary- Your nation is in a peculiar spot. Your forces are moderate, as is your economy, but you are sandwiched between the larger empires of the Ottomans and Napoleonic France. The Ottomans are an aging empire, but if left alone can grow once again, so they are best dealt with early. A good partner to have is France, to leave that front closed to hostility. And dont forgot about your African Colonies.

Greece- Your nation is a small, but well defended one. You have position to swipe cities off the Ottomans if you gang up on them with allies, preferably Austria. Your navy is average, but fits the need well and can come through. The army leaves something to be desired though, and an unplanned war could mean the death of your nation. Diplomacy is important to any nation, but too Greece it can mean the difference between life and death.

Spain- As Spain, you will have a challenging journey. You have colonies worldwide but the only one of any real size is California, which many countries (Aztecs, Texas, U.S) have thier eyes on. The best strategy would be to ally with France, and look to your smaller contiguous enemy Portugal. If you build your military and keep your allies long enough you might be able to get some large chunks of land from Portugal in Africa, South East Asia, and Brazil.

[I]Russia[I]- You are the largest nation in the world, and with that size comes good things and some bad. The good. You have a large base from which to make your military and better your ailing economy, not to mention get caught up in science research. The bad. You have a lot of weak spots. Although the Chinese may not be able to exploit them, the Japanese and Turkistanians can. You'l have spend some of your excess military to patch up those holes.

more of the story and strategies to come.

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Attachment: of incas and aztecs 1.5.zip
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Nov 2002
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i can't get the zip file...

i use winzip 8.1 SR-1 & i click the download link, the download starts & it goes to temporary direction. after download finishes, winzip opens automatically (as normal). for normal time, it should extract the zip file. but this time, it cannot find the file...

how can i get the file...

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interesting idea!

why can't we have the BIC/BIX file? i'd like to try different civs. any chance?

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Jun 2002
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why can't we have the BIC/BIX file? i'd like to try different civs. any chance?


You can, try looking at the bottom of the post three posts above your post.

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darn.... sorry... my bad!

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hmm, i downloaded it myself, the file was there...


Anybody have suggestions or comments on the scenario?

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Mar 2002
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Great scenario!
The only complaint I have is that my computer will freeze when I attempt to run the .bic file but will work just fine when I use one of the saved game files. Could you possible post some more saved games, like The British Empire or Ethiopia?

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Sure, British Empire, France, and Ethiopia are next on the list.

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british empire savegame

i needed to keep my computer on over night to finish a large download (DirectX SDK), so i let him start the savegame for the british empire (attachment).

what's the next request?

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so, here's the french revolutionary empire savegame

i don't know why, but we've immediately enterede the golden age ;(

also, there's a bunch of annoying pink germans (probably barbs) on the mainland... hope they don't destroy too much...

have fun...

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who's up for a challenge?

ethiopia is next... i'll post it this weekend!

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btw: all my saves are on monarch level.
use gramphos' SGE (in his C3MT package) to change difficulty...

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whoa, win this on diety and you really are a god

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oh, and btw: all my savegames are patched with v1.21f .

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last but not least: russia

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Jun 2002
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saved games Full PM-box? Change here!

I couldn't get ANY of the saved games to work
(of the first five anyway, havent tried any others)

The scenario will load up, but as Incas only.

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well, i just tried to load these saves on another machine... and it worked fine!
have you got PTW, patched to 1.21?

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harley: if you want to play as a different civ, edit the scenario, set the human player to whatever you want and load the scenario...

faster way: take a savegame... that is, of course... if you can load them ;-)

edit: typos

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How about Austria, Portugal, Denmark, and Texas?


Ill do more improvements at Conquest time, because i dont know what PTW and Conquest compatibility will be.

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Im gonna use your save games on the CFC boards, ill be sure to mention you!

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thanks... but no problem, i just ran it while working on the other PC so don't worry about the mentioning

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Thank you very much. It was the not-having-the-patch syndrome. All's well.

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