05-07-2003 23:20									#151
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What's so common about the last two milenia?

	06-07-2003 05:21									#152
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It means, for example, that this is the 2003rd year in the calendar commonly accepted around the world. I think Firaxis should have made Civ start at year 0 and work up to 6050. There's no event in the 400th year of history that merits starting a calendar.

	06-07-2003 06:21									#153
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quote: Originally posted by Anatolia It means, for example, that this is the 2003rd year in the calendar commonly accepted around the world. I think Firaxis should have made Civ start at year 0 and work up to 6050. There's no event in the 400th year of history that merits starting a calendar.

Except for the fact that, as you say, that it is the year commonly accepted as 0 around the world. You've got to count around some point, and as long as there is widespread agreement, I say stick with what's working

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That's why BCE is used as the academic nomenclature- it still uses the traditional year 0 as a base, but just removes the religious connotation.

It would be nice if Firaxis gave an option regarding calendar types (i.e. Christian, Academic, Buddhist, etc.)

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Why would we remove the religious connotation, when we count from year "0" exactly because its religious connotation? Without this religious connotation year 0 wouldn't be year 0; it is absurd to change the name only to avoid saying something ("Before Christ"), that is just perfectly true (well, unless they miscounted the year somehow) and universally accepted. You can count the years in "Before Confucius" or whatever else only nobody will know what the hell you are talking about Besides no one really cares what this BC means; it is a standard de facto. Why change it? This sounds like "esperanto" to me (making a language for the sake of making a language) : change a name for the sake of changing it. There's no logic in that.

PS I'm not religious.

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Edit: "BC" actually means "before Clik"

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Before click was my turn. After click is Zord's turn

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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Why would we remove the religious connotation, when we count from year "0" exactly because its religious connotation? Without this religious connotation year 0 wouldn't be year 0; it is absurd to change the name only to avoid saying something ("Before Christ"), that is just perfectly true (well, unless they miscounted the year somehow) and universally accepted. You can count the years in "Before Confucius" or whatever else only nobody will know what the hell you are talking about Besides no one really cares what this BC means; it is a standard de facto. Why change it? This sounds like "esperanto" to me (making a language for the sake of making a language) : change a name for the sake of changing it. There's no logic in that. PS I'm not religious.

A fair comment. There's not really any necessity, we just live in 'politically correct' times.

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There's actually no such date as 'BDG' but the Korean calandar (Dangi -- DG) only goes as far back as 2333 BCE so I had to make up BDG.

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While we're making up calanders, wouldn't Columbus's voyage and the corresponding 'Age of Exploration' be a more likely choice as the start of the 'Common Era'?

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quote: Originally posted by Rommel2D While we're making up calanders, wouldn't Columbus's voyage and the corresponding 'Age of Exploration' be a more likely choice as the start of the 'Common Era'?

That seems a little Americo-centric don't you think?

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I hope I was clear enough: I can't play the save 'cause I didn't get any save; only an empty email.

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quote: That seems a little Americo-centric don't you think?

If that means pointing out the Eurasian bias in the calandar, I guess so. (I probably don't need to point this out, but Australia was 'added' to the global culture during the Age of Exploration also. ;-)

It just seems humorous that the 'academic community' becomes so upset by the 3 or 7 year inaccuracy in the Gregorian Calandar, and then uses the same calendar with different labels that make little more sense. I'm sure they have some specific usage of "common" in mind (a thinly veiled put down of the Christian cult?), but in general it is a rather inclusive term. Since it concerns a period in time when the world's lands and peoples were mostly isolated from one another, why not use a term a little more discriptive of the period in question, like cultural era? If we're talking about the last 2000 years as a whole, Roman Civilization was probably the most influential factor in historical events.

Anyway, in another 5-10 millenia, this will all become moot, and that's all that's really important anyway...

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