20-05-2003 22:39									#1
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I'd like to be an official 3rd player for the team. I'll have plenty of free time and I'll be available during most hours of the day for the next two or so months.

DeepO suggested that I start a poll, so I did.
Voting is the traditional white (yes), black (no and veto, if you strongly object to me being a 3rd player for the team) and abstain. I thought this would be more appropriate in this case than a simple yes/no poll, for the same reason that we hold such a poll on applicants for membership.

	20-05-2003 22:40									#2
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I forgot to mention that this poll will run for 3 days. If anyone objects, please say so.

	20-05-2003 22:45									#3
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Like I said in the other thread, fine by me.

-Arrian

	20-05-2003 23:36									#4
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Just mentioning that I take bribes...

	21-05-2003 00:01									#5
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Just mentioning that I give bribes.

	21-05-2003 00:39									#6
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You can be the second player, since I dropped the case more than a month ago and won't play again, at least for now. Good luck.

	21-05-2003 00:53									#7
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I was wondering about that... I'm thinkin' "I know Sir Ralph resigned, and I know Nathan is our player right now, and Shiber wants to be #3, so who is #2?"



-Arrian

	21-05-2003 00:54									#8
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Thanks Sir Ralph.

If I'll be playing some of the turns, I'll need instructions from Nathan on what to do during the pre-build phase.
I'm not actually going to play & send any turns without our chief economist looking at them first (unless Nathan is confident enough that he can project the next turn 100% and leaves detailed instructions), but in order to actually do anything (e.g. bombard with cats) I'll have to get through the pre-build phase.

	21-05-2003 00:57									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian I was wondering about that... I'm thinkin' "I know Sir Ralph resigned, and I know Nathan is our player right now, and Shiber wants to be #3, so who is #2?"

That's none of your business!
And don't ever talk about or mention player #2 again.

	21-05-2003 02:05									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Thanks Sir Ralph.

You're welcome, although I don't think this game needs a second player. Reason below. But oh well, as long as you have fun being the turn monkey... I lost that fun at a certain moment very quick.

quote: If I'll be playing some of the turns, I'll need instructions from Nathan on what to do during the pre-build phase. I'm not actually going to play & send any turns without our chief economist looking at them first (unless Nathan is confident enough that he can project the next turn 100% and leaves detailed instructions), but in order to actually do anything (e.g. bombard with cats) I'll have to get through the pre-build phase.

Nathan will be pleased. It's next to impossible to project the turns 100% and leave detailed instructions, basically from a screenshot. And since you want Nathan to look at them first in any case, he can actually play them himself instead of writing down all that stuff.

But I don't want to discourage you, your effort deserves a .

	21-05-2003 03:00									#11
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Shiber- it would a shame seeing such a young talented and creative player such as yourself doing all the dirty work of pre-builds and laborers shuffling, but well...

it's your choice

White from here.

	21-05-2003 04:08									#12
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White from me.

I'll be happy to help with the build phase if for any reason Nathan is not available, or you guys are stumped (like that's gonna happen... NOT!).

Just call me.

	21-05-2003 08:39									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph But oh well, as long as you have fun being the turn monkey...

You mean "juggling" tiles isn't fun work for a monkey?

quote: Originally posted by zeit Shiber- it would a shame seeing such a young talented and creative player such as yourself doing all the dirty work of pre-builds and laborers shuffling, but well... it's your choice

Thanks.

quote: Just call me.

*ring*ring*

Hi, is it Theseus?
What? No, it's not his real name, uh... are you his mother?
Yes, I know it's 2AM, but you see, we're playing this game where we pretend to be a medieval republic and we need to go through the pre-*click*
Hello? Hello??

	21-05-2003 09:39									#14
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No no, Amy, my fiancee, is really cool (Sir Ralph? Nathan?)

She hates Vox (she saw the screen shot tonight... hell tath no fury, etc... "good, kill'em all), thinks GoW is suspicious, and is worried about Lego production. In the ISDG, she thinks we should just beat the crap outta everyone.

OK, we all gotta be embarassed on this: When she's giving me max grief, she actually points out how unprepared we were for the Vox invasion!! "You shoulda thought of that..."

* Theseus embarrassed and disarmed... it sucks.

Two thumbs up for Shiber.

	21-05-2003 11:24									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus No no, Amy, my fiancee, is really cool (Sir Ralph? Nathan?)

Yes she is.

quote: OK, we all gotta be embarassed on this: When she's giving me max grief, she actually points out how unprepared we were for the Vox invasion!! "You shoulda thought of that..."

I cannot even describe how annoyed I am with that, after having yelled so long for an appropriate military and getting in return only comments, how pathetic Vox is and that it is soo highly unlikely that anyone attacks us. My first reaction on the attack was "Ha!"

	21-05-2003 19:45									#16
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Yeah, Sir Ralph you (and NYE, IIRC) have every right to say "I told you so."

-Arrian

	21-05-2003 20:13									#17
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Arguably we/you (I wasn't here at the time obviously) did have a suitable military, taking Grog into consideration. He provided enough warning to get a sufficient defense in place, and now we have a stronger military than Vox (we think), and spent much of the early game on Rexxing and building infrastructure. So we've managed to get the best of both worlds.

Admittedly, Vox had the potential to hurt us earlier in the war, which is an argument the other way. Considering the number of bloodthirsty warmongers on this team, I was amazed how little military we had when I first joined...

	21-05-2003 21:39									#18
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quote: Originally posted by vulture Considering the number of bloodthirsty warmongers on this team, I was amazed how little military we had when I first joined...

I believe our builders outnumber our warmongers...


Dominae

	21-05-2003 23:27									#19
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Can't separate the two, building helps the warmonger... warmonger helps the builder. I think we were rather perfectly balancing the two given our situation.

	21-05-2003 23:36									#20
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What Aeson said.

I'm a warmonger in SP but I know that a marketplace today might provide for 5 knights tomorrow. Our strategic situation was pretty unenviable and we managed, with the help of the free settler, to turn it into a solid start. But we had to really max out our REX/infrastrusture to do it.

Still, all things considered, I do think that it would have been better had we paid a *little* more heed to Sir Ralph's and NYE's warnings. We needed every turn that Grog gave us, PLUS mistakes by Vox to prevent us from losing cities.

-Arrian

	25-05-2003 01:23									#21
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I'll notify Lego tomorrow that they should send our save to me too, unless anyone objects.

	25-05-2003 04:54									#22
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We pulled it off- somehow. Like in real life- success or failure is rarely caused by one factor. Our production meant those turns we got from Grog and Vox's mistakes was enough to tip the balance (which is no in our favor- Woohoo!). I wish I was here in those tense and very unique moments.
And I also wish I had an understanding girlfriend such as Amy- she hates Vox, mine just hates me when I talk about the game...