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Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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Nice bit of humour to avoid the reality, but "serious consequences" were unanimously voted for in the "first" resolution.

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Serious consequences isn't an explicit statement that force will be used. Otherwise why was Blair desperately trying to secure the second resolution for so long?

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"Otherwise why was Blair desperately trying to secure the second resolution for so long?"

To pacify idiots like Clare Short. For political reasons, not for legal reasons.

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For international political reasons because they new that the rest of the UN didn't agree with what the resolution meant, because one stating explicitly the use of force wouldn't have got passed.

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So, let me get this right Mike...

"Blair [was] desperately trying to secure the second resolution for so long" ... "because they new that the rest of the UN didn't agree with what the resolution meant, because one stating explicitly the use of force wouldn't have got passed".

Come back to me when you are singlethinking...

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Boddington-when a resolution says "serious consequences" it doesn't authorize war. It is standard UN protocol in this situation to call upon a second resolution to authorize the war. We did this, but it was never voted on. And according to the UN's constitution unauthorized regime change is not allowed. That's why the war is in violation of international law.

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