21-05-2003 18:09									#1
	A naive wish Increase the size of your Attachments

I'd rather have a partial patch or two than wait two months for a complete Code Patch...

	21-05-2003 18:15									#2
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Well, I suppose you could count the Data Patch as a partial, but we'll get the Code Patch when they want, not when we want.

	21-05-2003 18:29									#3
	Increase the size of your Attachments

Like this: We pay, They demand?

	21-05-2003 18:57									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Something like that. But we can't make them code or QA any faster...and all things considered, we really don't want to.

	21-05-2003 20:48									#5
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I think they feel that an inadequate code patch will attract negative reactions. For those who don't distinguish between data and code this will be the second attemt to fix the things keeping them from playing. Many won't wait for a third.

	21-05-2003 21:19									#6
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Let them take as long as they want to fix it. Grumbold's right; I'll wait for this patch but if they f@@K it up this time you'll see my copy on ebay.

	22-05-2003 12:11									#7
	Here's one Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

That they actually fix the DX bug!
(So far, no reference has been made in the patch progress thread, despite it being the number one complaint.)

	22-05-2003 15:32									#8
	Increase Your PM Length

Might the latest set of drivers released since MoO3 help anyway? Its been so long since I got the DX problem I forget what the cause was.

	23-05-2003 05:17									#9
	Still a problem in the code... Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I won’t bore you with all the gory details (If your interested, and Stencho has not deleted them in a fit of rage, you may read my quite lengthy number of posts detailing the problems, code dumps, and my many attempts to fix them on the IG forums) but suffice to say that many of us are still plagued with the DX problem despite having followed all the suggestions given in the forums, and then some. I have personally gone to the lengths of even testing out (187 to date) different combinations settings within the game, in DirectX, and in my video card’s drivers, all to little noticeable effect.

At the point just before my departure from IG, I was in the midst of constructing a matrix of all the system variables of the affected systems. As far as I got, most seem to be older systems (PII’s or PIII’s below 450 MHz) with video cards (both ATI and nVidia chipsets) containing 32 Megs or less of RAM. Only problem was there were a statistically significant number of computers that also exhibited the incurable form of the DX error that exceeded these specs. As a result, I have not been able to find any common factor linking all the affected systems.

P.S.: Drivers? One of the first things I checked! All are current.

	23-05-2003 07:29									#10
	Full PM-box? Change here!

My PIII 500, 256 MB, Win2K system hits me every time the OS pops up a window, any window.

I disabled EVERY thing in the System Tray so wouldn't you know it the latest was the mouse battery warning.

	23-05-2003 09:23									#11
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Sometimes I think its "A naive wish" to believe our opinions matter or that we'll see what we want.

	23-05-2003 21:52									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Sometimes I think its "A naive wish" to believe our opinions matter or that we'll see what we want.

Politics and philosophy belongs in the OT forum

	24-05-2003 15:39									#13
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by Stormhound Something like that. But we can't make them code or QA any faster...and all things considered, we really don't want to.

Actually given our experience with them we should demand patch right now. They would screw it right, but next patch would be better and more quckly done. Well we tried to wait and believed in more or less bug free software. We received more or less feature free software. Ie we should try the other way. Force from them unfinished patch, or force from them original code and repair it in public domain.

	25-05-2003 10:10									#14
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I like that idea of putting it in the public domain (even if it does introduce more chaos into the system).

	25-05-2003 17:56									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

i don't see much changes with the data patch i continue to smash AI at impossible level, the ithkul could be more smart

	28-05-2003 01:33									#16
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by raghar Actually given our experience with them we should demand patch right now. They would screw it right, but next patch would be better and more quckly done. Well we tried to wait and believed in more or less bug free software. We received more or less feature free software. Ie we should try the other way. Force from them unfinished patch, or force from them original code and repair it in public domain.

communism?

if no one gets to own their own code no one will be making games

cheers