21-05-2003 19:07									#1
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Does anyone know a way to take a node that has a Guardian Spirit melded with it? The only way I've found is to eliminate the wizard that controls the node. Hopefully there is another way.

	21-05-2003 22:29									#2
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According to the manual, there is a 25% chance of stealing a node melded to a guardian spirit, using either a magic or guardian spirit. I guess you just have to keep trying...

	22-05-2003 05:07									#3
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Yep that is the only way, other than defeating, not just banishing, the controling Wizard.

It may, at times, cost you quite a bit of mana to take over a node protected by a guardian spirit.

But I ALWAYS take them over, if only to keep it from the other wizard.

ACK!

	07-06-2003 23:44									#4
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i send a crapload of the magic spirits, because using gs's is too expensive. then, i put a medium level unit or two on the node to protect it.

usually i get it within 3-5 magic spirits, but sometimes it's taken 10+, usually when the other mage had like archmage or that mod that makes their global spells harder to dispell.

	02-07-2003 13:00									#5
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A surefire means of conquering the node...

Ok, this is certainly not in the spirit of playing the game as it comes but if you are bound and determined to get a node just save your game and if your guardian fails, reload and try again....

Of course you can do this for every battle, etc... It will suck the fun right out of the game though - you have been warned!

	22-07-2003 14:55									#6
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Probably the Disenchant Area (cast overland) can remove the guardian spirit protection, but this is not confirmed :-(

	22-07-2003 17:22									#7
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I'm pretty sure I tried that and it didn't work. I was desperate to take a chaos node and tried everything under the sun to pull that GS out.

	24-07-2003 05:25									#8
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quote: Originally posted by da_hal i send a crapload of the magic spirits, because using gs's is too expensive. then, i put a medium level unit or two on the node to protect it. usually i get it within 3-5 magic spirits, but sometimes it's taken 10+, usually when the other mage had like archmage or that mod that makes their global spells harder to dispell.

You are correct, I actually use magic spirits as well. You can meld a Guardian spirit after you take it over.

ACK!

	02-10-2003 15:07									#9
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Just steal it with a fleet of magic spirits. it's a bummer if you're working on a big spell at the same time, but with proper timing you should be fine.

apart from that, always protect your nodes with magicians and melee units, 2 in the early game, 4 later on

	02-10-2003 22:26									#10
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Yep, I think that disenchant area could dispell the Guardian spirit.

	04-10-2003 15:30									#11
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I never knew that works?! And I'm pretty sure it doesn't...

	05-10-2003 22:42									#12
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Ect,
I think I've read something like that from the manual, but I may have mistaken or misunderstood something.

So, I'm not sure. If you are still bothered, check your manual (I think it is stated in there)