22-05-2003 01:00									#31
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Everyone is a critic.... if something is done to help were accusations fly, if nothing is done , accusations fly...

which will it be people....

	22-05-2003 01:05									#32
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The only wat to stop it is with a large force willing to get dirty.

Does the UN have the will?

	22-05-2003 01:25									#33
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This is 3 times worse than Rwanda in number of victims. So far.

	22-05-2003 01:31									#34
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America won't be able to send anyone to Congo. We are tied up in Iraq and war against terror.

The only force that can stop this mess now is that of the 'Axis of the Weasel'. But I doubt they would lift a finger to do anything.

	22-05-2003 02:59									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless America won't be able to send anyone to Congo. We are tied up in Iraq and war against terror.

Like we would ever send anyone to the Congo anyway.

	22-05-2003 03:06									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless America won't be able to send anyone to Congo. We are tied up in Iraq and war against terror. .

Bull, congo just hasnt got a leader that starts selling his oil in euro.

	22-05-2003 03:09									#37
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Bull, congo just hasnt got a leader that starts selling his oil in euro.

That's not it. The Congo has the good fortune of being located in an area of the the world no one important gives a rat's arse about, Europe included.

	22-05-2003 03:19									#38
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That was basicly my point, no economic or strategic intersts = no peacekeeping

	22-05-2003 03:21									#39
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quote: Originally posted by atawa That was basicly my point, no economic or strategic intersts = no peacekeeping

Then why the idiotic point about Euros?

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1)There are large gas deposits all along the subsident basins of the sub sahara and continetal shelf of Africa and oil reseves too,but there is no developed infastructure and the utilization is not really cost effective.Nigerian gas flares look like a megapolis in satellite photos of the earth at night.
2)Here is some more cheap labor

	22-05-2003 08:48									#41
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Congo may turn out to be a really good piece of real estate: lots of diamond, lots of copper, and lots of jungle(biodiversity!).

	22-05-2003 11:54									#42
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 Okay, I remember now. I didn't realize that Kabila had died however. I thought that his original power base was in the eastern part of the country though. Seems I remember him advancing from that direction and many of the army groups defecting to him on his way. Does his son not enjoy this same power base and if not, where does his power base come from?

Kabila the Elder was heavily supported by Rwanda, and it was this support that rushed him into power. When he didn't keep his promises to Rwanda and instead allowed the Hutu militias free reign, Rwanda and Uganda (who also has an insurgency coming over the border from Congo) invaded and took over the Eastern 1/3 of the country. Kabila turned to his commie friends for help, and Mugabe (Zimbabwe) and Dos Santos (Angola) stepped forward to help prop up his government. Neither side had enough force to really change the map too much. Control aside from the main towns and transport corridors is shaky in most parts of the country. Rwanda and Uganda formed local militias in the areas of their nominal control to boost the numbers of troops on the ground and to serve as a political counterpoint to Congo's government. They also have helped to retard the activities of guerillas in Rwanda and Uganda.

Laurent Kabila was assassinated by one of his bodyguards and few mourned him on any side of the conflict. His son seems to be a much more competent leader, and has managed to make a lot of progress toward peace. The war between the state actors has been mostly dormant for several years now, but the war in the bush between these numerous guerilla groups and militias seems to be heating up.

	22-05-2003 17:49									#43
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Boy this sounds like a modern fuedal state,reminiscient of Somoli.warlords and rogue sultanates ect.