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Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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Elvis Costello defends outspoken artists

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) --British singer-songwriter Elvis Costello Tuesday defended musicians who speak their minds in these "fairly dangerous times" and warned Americans to guard against "any attempts by people who swindle their way into office."

Addressing a music industry dinner in Beverly Hills, California, Costello also criticized the British political system, which he described as "privileged people handing wigs to one another making the laws of the land."

The 48-year-old musician, famed for such songs as "Oliver's Army" and "Everyday I Write the Book," was being honored by the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, a music licensing group that also campaigns for artists' rights.

Costello drew loud cheers from the black-tie audience, which included songwriters Stevie Wonder, Rick James, Burt Bacharach, Solomon Burke and Nelly.

His comments came amid concerns that singers and actors who spoke out against the U.S.-led war in Iraq were being blacklisted.

When the lead singer of popular country trio the Dixie Chicks criticized President Bush, many U.S. radio stations all but stopped playing the group's songs.

"We all live in fairly dangerous times in terms of freedom of speech and freedom of expression," Costello said.

"A lot of the songwriters that I've admired and learned from ... are people who spoke in matters of conscience as well as matters of the heart. I think that it's essential that we defend that right."

After noting that he had written more than 300 songs -- "and none of them have been successful" -- Costello performed versions of "Almost Blue" and "Alison" as well as a brand new piano ballad called "When It Sings."

Burke, seated in a wheelchair for most of the evening, earlier sang the Costello-written tune "The Judgment," which appeared on the soul legend's recent Grammy-winning album "Don't Give Up On Me."

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Here ya go. You jingo's have a lot of work to do. If you own any Elvis Costello CD's, you should burn them. Otherwise, you are an America hating leftist! I'm also starting a petition to exile Costello to Cuba where he should fit in nicely!

Jaguar is offline Jaguar
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Apr 2000
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Just bought a 200 dollar French watch yesterday.

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Oct 2002
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What exactly does Oliver's Army refer to? Love the song but I've never understood it.

DarthVeda is offline DarthVeda
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It always comes back to the election... what in the hell are they going to be saying after 2004?

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I'm a dumb liberal, I have nothing to throw at Bush except that it was a very close election and I'm still bitter he won on account of a court ruling! Damn these three seperate but equal branches of the government!

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I hope this guy at least sticks with his beliefs.

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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It always comes back to the election... what in the hell are they going to be saying after 2004?

It's possible he's referring to Blair (since Costello is British) and his conservative transformation.

Jaguar Warrior: I'll save a place for you on the boat to CUBA!

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It's possible he's referring to Blair (since Costello is British) and his conservative transformation.

Jaguar Warrior: I'll save a place for you on the boat to CUBA!

You can't do that. I support the Republican party. Ergo I am a patriot.

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May 1999
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It always comes back to the election... what in the hell are they going to be saying after 2004?


No different from GWB.

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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Sep 1999
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I seem to have been boycotting Costello for years without knowing it.

Sava is offline Sava
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Mar 2001
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You can't do that. I support the Republican party. Ergo I am a patriot.
Your disguise doesn't fool me. I'm part of the newly created "Patriot Agency". I mascarade as a lunatic leftist to root out subversive elements. Your support of our French enemies has earned you a stay with EL PRESIDENTE! ENJOY YOUR NEW LIFE COMMIE!

Lorizael is offline Lorizael

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Sep 2001
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You broke my sarcasometer.

The Templar is offline The Templar
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Oct 2001
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Right now I'm drinking a nice French Bordeaux. Last weekend, I ate at a good French restaurant. I'm boycotting Texas wine (which is no real loss really) to protest King George W.

Hey Veda, have you read the actual court decision? That is the most unconvincing, insincere opinion ever written. And conservatives have the unmitigated gaul to say Scalia and Co. interpret the law. Those guys make the so-called activism of the Warren court look list strict cinstruction. Conservatives don't really want judges who interpret the law - they want activists.

Had the Warren court issued the same decision (but in Gore's favor) conservatives would still be screaming bloody murder and threatening to take to the streets with their guns that will have to be ripped from "their cold dead hands". (Makes me wistful for Janet Reno - but with her, just replace the word 'cold' with 'crispy').

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I'm boycotting Texas wine (which is no real loss really) to protest King George W.
Texas produces wine?

Ming is offline Ming
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Texas produces wine?


Yeah... but they call it Beer

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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That's what I thought.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Hey Veda, have you read the actual court decision? That is the most unconvincing, insincere opinion ever written.


I have read the actual court decision; it is kinda required in our Con Law class in Law School, and I can fully say that you are totally full of ****. If anything the dissents are incredibly unconvincing and insincere, designed simply so their guy Gore could try one more time to steal the election.

When seven justices agree that there were great civil rights problems with the recount and then two of those justices (the Democrats) believe that those massive problems could be fixed in a WEEK, they are totally deluding themselves.

Try reading the opinion before spouting off please.

The Templar is offline The Templar
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Hey Veda, have you read the actual court decision? That is the most unconvincing, insincere opinion ever written.


I have read the actual court decision; it is kinda required in our Con Law class in Law School, and I can fully say that you are totally full of ****. If anything the dissents are incredibly unconvincing and insincere, designed simply so their guy Gore could try one more time to steal the election.


I see you read the Fox News edition of the opinion. Even Richard Posner (the conservative/libertarian chief justice of the US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals) in his book on the subject said the reasoning in the majority decision was bogus. He justified the decision on the grounds that a quick decision based on any reason was necessary.

By the way, can you think of any other decision where Rehnquist, Scalia, or Thomas has been concerned about equal protection? Funny how they only worry about equal protection for cracker votes.

And whatever happened to states' rights? I though conservatives loved states' rights - and the states get to set their own elections law. Usually, Scalia and Co. argue that federal courts lack the competency to adjudicate state law disputes. But it just goes to show how dishonest conservative judges are.

How come the only time we hear about states' rights is when a state wants to cheat someone out of overtime, or screw over a minority? Medical marijuana? Assisted suicide? Emission controls? States have no rights there apparently.

Bush v. Gore is just another sad exaple of conservatives abandoning their own ostensible philosophy on federalism when it comes to furthering their other ideological ends.

What law school did you go to again?

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When seven justices agree that there were great civil rights problems with the recount and then two of those justices (the Democrats) believe that those massive problems could be fixed in a WEEK, they are totally deluding themselves.


Of course it didn't help that the Supremes stopped the recount right as it started.


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Try reading the opinion before spouting off please.


Uh, I did. The rest of my response to you may be found on Run DMC's Greatest Hits, track three (Beats to the Rhyme), at about 2:36. Enjoy.

The Templar is offline The Templar
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Texas produces wine?


Check this out.

And yes Ming, Texas makes a mean beer. I'm especially partial to Fat Tire - and I used to love Celis. I also drank my share of Lone Star when I was a kid.

Ming is offline Ming
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Gee... I think some people need to CHILL!

Remember... attack the argument, NOT THE POSTER!

Sava is offline Sava
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WoW! Templar just put me to shame

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Jan 2000
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Just bought a 200 dollar French watch yesterday.


And it tells decent time when it's not on strike.

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Texas produces wine?


He must have meant winos.

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Oct 2002
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Boycott pot!

Who would that hurt the most?

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Jan 2000
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Boycott pot!

Who would that hurt the most?


A lot of people won't be able to remember who it hurts until several days into the boycott.

="Huh?"

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