23-05-2003 22:52									#1
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I've got an xbox console and I can't find any good games for it. I prefer the RPG and xbox seems to hold this genre in some disdain. If anyone has one, what games have you played and liked? I haven't fired my up since December and I hate seeing that three hundred dollar doorstop in my entertainment center.

	24-05-2003 00:48									#2
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I enjoyed Morrowind very much. It's a complex RPG. I haven't tried it yet, but there's also Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance. It's like Diablo, but with better graphics. And coming soon: "Star Wars: knights of the old republic" and "Deus Ex 2".

	24-05-2003 01:45									#3
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Unreal Championship
RallySport Challenge (note this is not Collin McCray Rally Suckass, it's the Microsoft one)
Phantasy Star Online (an old Dreamcast port, I don't like it but my friends can't stop playing).
Halo!
Morrowind is great if you're able to ignore the huge game balance issues, it's also much better on PC (with mods).

Fable is coming out eventually (like 2004). That should be a good RPG.

	24-05-2003 02:45									#4
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is the xbox joystick beter than the ps2 one?

	24-05-2003 03:27									#5
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Depends on what you are using it for. Overall the Xbox controllers (and everything else hardware in general) are better than the PS2's controllers; however, PS2 controllers are better for fighting games IMO.

Also, keep in mind that there are 2 sizes of Xbox controller. The little ones are better for most stuff, but the big ones are great for racing games.

	24-05-2003 03:49									#6
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I forgot... You should also try Splinter Cell. It's not a RPG, but it's a great game.

	24-05-2003 09:38									#7
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Xbox sux.

	24-05-2003 15:23									#8
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I take it then that you hate all consoles, because the xbox is hands down the best one.

	24-05-2003 15:25									#9
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Drake is a Nintendo fanboy.

	24-05-2003 15:30									#10
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Halo is X-box

	24-05-2003 21:45									#11
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Game consoles aren't for geeks, unless it's one modified Xbox or the PS2 with Linux. They're only meant for gaming and there's pretty much no good RTS or TBS games for any consoles (well, PS had Civ II). So a PC is better as it combines both, but it's indeed more expensive.

So no, I do not have an Xbox.

	24-05-2003 21:52									#12
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yeah, the load time on civ2 was killer.... PCs are way better for tbs games etc.....

i like consols for fighting , racing, etc...

	25-05-2003 00:10									#13
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i have a xbox, dead to rights is a pretty good game

	25-05-2003 00:13									#14
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quote: yeah, the load time on civ2 was killer...

Yeah, I've seen my friend play civ on the PS1 (i didn't know they release civ 2). When it got near the end of the game, the computer would seriously take close to an hour to move. That was on the PS1 though, I think systems now could handle it.

	25-05-2003 00:15									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Drake is a Nintendo fanboy.

Ah, then he must like decent games on a completely inferior system. Unless Nintendo does something quick, they're gonna be just like Sega, development only.

	25-05-2003 01:15									#16
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Ah, then he must like decent games on a completely inferior system.

Oh please,

	25-05-2003 01:23									#17
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I don't have Xbox, and I don't plan to get one either. I like the games on the PC, but the games avilable for the consoles haven't been something for me since Nintendo's golden age and to some degree Mario 64. But nothing surpasses the good old games from NES and SNES!

	25-05-2003 06:40									#18
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quote: I've got an xbox console and I can't find any good games for it. I prefer the RPG and xbox seems to hold this genre in some disdain.

Then the question remains, why did you get the xbox in the first place?

	25-05-2003 07:51									#19
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I got an Xbox just for a game that I already have for PS2.

	25-05-2003 07:57									#20
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Sucker.

	25-05-2003 09:37									#21
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quote: Drake is a Nintendo fanboy.

Nah, I just enjoy playing quality exclusive titles on my consoles. Does the Xbox have any of those left? The Xbox game library was looking pretty pathetic the last time I went shopping.

	25-05-2003 09:43									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Nah, I just enjoy playing quality exclusive titles on my consoles. Does the Xbox have any of those left?

Crimson Skies (This one really hurts).

	25-05-2003 11:53									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Nah, I just enjoy playing quality exclusive titles on my consoles. Does the Xbox have any of those left?

No, none at all.
Let's see...the entire Rare catalogue, Halo, Halo 2, Brute Force, Midtown Madness 3, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Star Wars: Republic Commando, Sudeki, B.C., Fable, Crimson Skies, Duality, Dino Crisis 3, Dead or Alive 4, Ninja Gaiden, DOOM III (console exclusive), Half-Life 2 (console exclusive), Psychonauts, etc.

Yes, there's certainly a lot lacking. I also neglected to mention the awesome exclusive racing games (Rallisport Challenge 1 & 2, Project Gotham Racing 1 & 2, SegaGT Online, etc) and the awesome extreme sports games (ala Amped 1 & 2), and general sports-games-awesomeness (ever played NHL 2K3 online? Awesome!). Plus Xbox Live...which is an absolutely huge plus that no one else has come close to competing with.

The reality of the situation, Drake, is Nintendo's sales are lacking, MS' are growing stronger, and developer support for Nintendo is once again waning with a flurry of cancellations for Gamecube games.

I wouldn't be one to talk about having good "exclusive" games, because the Gamecube gets a good exclusive game once in a blue moon, and Gamecube users are getting the shaft with crappy ports and the smallest game selection out of any next-gen console. Don't kid yourself.

	25-05-2003 11:57									#24
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quote: Crimson Skies (This one really hurts).

Isn't that already out for the PC? If so, it isn't an exclusive.

Knights of the Old Republic is an upcoming Xbox exclusive that comes to mind, but that's supposed to be going to PC rather quickly as well.

	25-05-2003 12:01									#25
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quote: I wouldn't be one to talk about having good "exclusive" games, because the Gamecube gets a good exclusive game once in a blue moon, and Gamecube users are getting the shaft with crappy ports and the smallest game selection out of any next-gen console. Don't kid yourself.

The Xbox can't compete with Nintendo exclusives like Zelda and Metroid, let alone the huge PS2 catalog. I have a Gamecube and PS2 and that's all I'm going to need this generation. Microsoft better become more skilled at courting Japanese developers if they want the Xbox 2 to be the industry leader.

	25-05-2003 12:05									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten The Xbox can't compete with Nintendo exclusives like Zelda and Metroid, let alone the huge PS2 catalog. I have a Gamecube and PS2 and that's all I'm going to need this generation. Microsoft better become more skilled at courting Japanese developers if they want the Xbox 2 to be the industry leader.

Please, Zelda was great. Metroid was decent, it was only great if you're a big Metroid nut (which I am not). Metroid in particular was rather stale to me, required little to no skill, and felt more like an FPS that was converted into an "adventure" game to become more canon to Metroid.

The simple fact is, Super Mario Sunshine sucked. Luigi's Mansion sucked. Zelda as great. Metroid was decent.

And other than that, there's not much the Gamecube has going for it.

If you truly had a clue about all of the great games on the Xbox, you'd certainly think differently. You've obviously blinded yourself to all of the great exclusives that other consoles get, because you can't get them yourself.

I have an Xbox and a Gamecube, and the Gamecube gets dusty until a Zelda-type game comes out, and the Xbox gets constant use between me and my brother.

There's a reason that the Xbox is outselling the Gamecube, and the Gamecube titles are being cancelled while Xbox's added...

	25-05-2003 12:13									#27
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Just giving you my opinion, Asher. The Xbox seems to be turning into a poor-man's PC gaming rig, which was what Microsoft promised everyone it wouldn't be. If you like FPS and racing games, then the Xbox might be for you, but fans of any other genre are better off getting a PS2 and maybe a Gamecube if they enjoy Nintendo games.

	25-05-2003 12:15									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Just giving you my opinion, Asher. The Xbox seems to be turning into a poor-man's PC gaming rig

Okay, just shut up & save face and leave this thread and start a Nintendo thread.

This is an Xbox thread, if you want to continue to display monumental ignorance, you may do so -- but be warned you are being stupid and you are outnumbered.

	25-05-2003 12:22									#29
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quote: This is an Xbox thread, if you want to continue to display monumental ignorance, you may do so -- but be warned you are being stupid and you are outnumbered.

Was that supposed to be a threat? I'm quaking in my boots...

Anyway, the guy who started this thread was complaining about the lack of good RPGs on the Xbox. I think he'd be better off selling his Xbox and buying a PS2 if he wants to play RPGs; the Xbox isn't going to have many good RPGs (particularly console RPGs) in the forseeable future. Simply buying the console with the best hardware is pretty stupid, especially if the console you buy doesn't have any games you like.

	25-05-2003 12:30									#30
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If he wants to play RPGs, he should buy a PS2, I agree.

But all of your other statements have shown incredible ignorance, which is why I suggest you stop while you still can.