24-05-2003 21:28									#1
	Michael Jackson Strikes Back! Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Bashir made the show about Michael Jackson's life, and most of us saw it. We can agree, that it did make Jacko looks like a Wacko. I feel like it's my duty to bring this thread, because I was bashing Jackson, and have been doing that for years now, so it's only fair to defend him a little too.

Now, Jacko strikes back with his own show about Bashirs show. It was very clear that Bashir gave wrong impression to Michael about what his show will be like. Jackson's counter show clearly shows it. Bashir also left some things out, that were not out of to context, making some things seem little unfair.

So what's your final take? Obviously the guy is little out there, but you have to admit that people have tried to make him look even worse.

	24-05-2003 21:31									#2
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My take is, that even if Jackson is little weird and from Mars, Bashir is even worse. This guy wanted to benefit trashing other person and did so to get lots of money, and he did hurt Jackos image even more if that is even possible, making the guy suffer. So Mr Bashir, I'll be seeing you at the back of the sauna.

	24-05-2003 21:41									#3
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Well it looks like it is time for :The return of the Bashir

	24-05-2003 21:46									#4
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I don't understand?

You mean that it's time for Bashir to do another show about the show Michael made about his show? It would be great

	24-05-2003 21:55									#5
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Thank you for putting the first name in the thread title. Jackson means Peter Jackson to me.

	24-05-2003 23:22									#6
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Is Michael Jackson's show the one that was filmed by the gay porno director, who is a good friend of Jacksons and frequently seen at the Wonderland Ranch shooting home videos with the kids for Jackson? Really setting the message straight...

	24-05-2003 23:27									#7
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"straight"?!

	24-05-2003 23:28									#8
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I don't know who did the show I saw about MJ some time ago, but it could well have been Bashir... That guy who made the show, sucks big time, since he wasn't looking for the answer, he didn't even give MJ a chance to explain, he simply said: "You do it this way, I hate this way, therefore I hate you"... I hate such guys...
He only made the show, to make MJ look worse. If you don't understand MJ (which only few people does), don't even try to make a show about him...

Haven't seen MJ's strike back, so I can't comment on that one...

	24-05-2003 23:36									#9
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The guy I am referring to is Marc Schaffel.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/873878.asp?cp1=1

quote: Who exactly are his friends? This home video “Dateline” showed was shot by one of Jackson’s guests. But X-rated gay videos were produced by one of Jackson’s friends, a man named Marc Schaffel. “Pardon the pun, but Peter Pan picks a porn producer to be his personal videographer,” says journalist Mark Ebner, who is writing a book about Hollywood excess, and came across Michael Jackson’s association with porn producer Schaffel. “His name is Mark Schaffel,” says Ebner, “but given his work in the adult entertainment world, the porno industry he goes by the following names — Mark Fredericks, Fred Shaffel, Fred M. Shaffel, Frederick Shaffel, Frederick Mark Shaffel and Fred M. Shaffel. So, you know, he is indeed a chameleon type character who disguises himself and wears different hats to the point where he could associate himself with Michael Jackson.” Schaffel’s connection to the singer came to light after Jackson hired him as executive producer of “What More Can I Give,” a benefit song Jackson did in the wake of September 11. After it was learned that Schaffel produced videos like these, Jackson’s publicist announced the singer would have nothing more to do with him. But it turns out Schaffel not only helped produce for Jackson, the rebuttal video of British journalist Martin Bashir interviewing the singer, he also helped broker the deal for that video, acting as Jackson’s agent in selling the material to the highest bidder.

	25-05-2003 00:18									#10
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Bashir's a sleaze on just the far side of Geraldo on the spectrum. He probably pulled a bait and switch to get close access to Jackson.

Mj's no better, though. Aside from OJ, probably the greatest example of buying your way out of trouble.

	25-05-2003 00:20									#11
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You just hate them coz they're black.

	25-05-2003 00:22									#12
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Are you channeling Boddington's or something?

I'm talking about their obscene amounts of money.

	25-05-2003 00:23									#13
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Now, I am just having some good clean fun. I was kidding.

	25-05-2003 00:33									#14
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I know. .

I think bashir probably gave him enough rope to hang himself anyway, especially the way he talked about his little sleepovers being good clean fun.

	25-05-2003 00:37									#15
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I think the guy is demented. Could be a paedophile, too.