25-05-2003 03:23									#1
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you know the old heads who stand on the corner with a megaphone or a mic attached to a portable speaker, preaching to random passerbys... what do yall think of them?

For example, today I had seen one (wearing a koffie so i assume he was muslim) and he was talking about how the Israelites were enslaved by the Egyptians (which he called black) and that ever since, the jews have been holding down the black man as vengeance.

Such preachers have important messages concerning self-determination and morality but clearly what that one was talking about is somewhat racially hateful. what do yall think? are street preachers for the greater benefit or are their tendencies to be hateful a detriment?

Me personally, though I can see some problems arising from such messages as what that particular one said, overall, a message of morality and self-determination is crucial to the improvement of the inner-city.


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	25-05-2003 03:27									#2
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quote: For example, today I had seen one (wearing a koffie so i assume he was muslim) and he was talking about how the Israelites were enslaved by the Egyptians (which he called black) and that ever since, the jews have been holding down the black man as vengeance.

	25-05-2003 03:29									#3
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Like you said, it depends on the message. Haven't run into any in Pittsburgh yet.

	25-05-2003 03:31									#4
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I haven't seen any since moving from North Carolina. There was a brickyard preacher at NC State who was full of hate and lunacy, and he was fun to watch from time to time, but like all one-trick ponies he was best taken in small doses.

	25-05-2003 03:37									#5
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There's a Black man I see frequently all over Dallas.
Sandwich sign, bullhorn, Bible.
If he's who you're talking about, I have no problem at all with him.

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haha, we have one of those at our school...he's a nutjob who has a warped sense of morality. Born Again Christian...probably unemployed. His calendar looks like this

Monday: Preach at UD
Tuesday: Preach at UD
Wednesday: Preach at UD
etc.

	25-05-2003 04:53									#8
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We had a few in Downtown Pensacola, FL. Especially on Saturday nights. They'd yell at guys going into clubs and those dressed "Immorally", which apperently involves wearing dark clothes and Hard Rock Cafe T-shirts.

Their cute daughters handed out Chick Tracts. Now I have a bunch, but not the D&D one.

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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Their cute daughters handed out Chick Tracts. Now I have a bunch, but not the D&D one.

I've got quite a collection of Chick Tracts , but I don't have the D&D one either (haha! collect them all!)

I remember have the almost overwhelming urge to beat the crap out of one in New Orleans right after 9/11. Yea, I really want to hear about God punishing sinners right after a bunch of God-fearing maniacs committed mass murder. Religion is the worst weapon of mass destruction ever invented.

Preachers make me miss good ol' Janet Reno.

	25-05-2003 05:19									#10
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manic street preachers? good stuff

	25-05-2003 05:27									#11
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so most of yall got experiences with Christian preachers? interesting how there seems to be more muslim heads doing it here.

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	25-05-2003 05:42									#14
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	25-05-2003 06:06									#15
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I'd like to have freedom from religion.

Paiktis is drunk. I thought watching police videos, and those stupid drunks who can't even recite the alphabet was amusing...

	25-05-2003 06:12									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar We had a few in Downtown Pensacola, FL. Especially on Saturday nights. They'd yell at guys going into clubs and those dressed "Immorally", which apperently involves wearing dark clothes and Hard Rock Cafe T-shirts. Their cute daughters handed out Chick Tracts. Now I have a bunch, but not the D&D one.

I used to live in Pensacola. Are you in the Navy?

	25-05-2003 06:20									#17
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As long as they're not too insistent, I consider them as comical relief. Isolated loonies are OK in my book. I am more worried when organized cults are recruiting this way though.

	25-05-2003 07:22									#18
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There's a guy who stalks the Toronto subway and yells about how God stopped him from drinking, beating up his wife and screwing around. I'm guessing the Lord only needed to stop the first.

	25-05-2003 09:52									#19
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I'm not really a fan.

Neither is JC:

"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."
Matthew 6:5-6

	25-05-2003 10:00									#20
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I'm not talking about crazy people... i'm talking about the kind of people who mightaswell be ministers but choose to be out on the street preaching... i mean many of them end their 'sermons' by shouting the address of their church or mosque and asking people to come and further hear the truth of God. they're not crazy people...

	25-05-2003 10:06									#21
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There is a Christian bloke who stands outside the Church on the Main Shopping Street here in Derby, I cant have enough respect for the Man, as many people dismiss him as an idiot yet he comes out to preach what he believes.

Good Job I say.

	25-05-2003 10:16									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Rothy There is a Christian bloke who stands outside the Church on the Main Shopping Street here in Derby, I cant have enough respect for the Man, as many people dismiss him as an idiot yet he comes out to preach what he believes. Good Job I say.

Likewise, there's a homeless man on 7th Ave/6th Street in Calgary who screams every day about how Ralph Klein is from outer space and is after our children. I can't have enough respect for the man, as many people dismiss him as an idiot yet he comes to preach what he believes.

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	25-05-2003 12:57									#24
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From my experience, they are downright hateful. Anyone here know of Brother Jed? He tours the country visiting universities spouting horrible anti-gay and extreme sexist comments all in the name of what he would call "God."

The one thing I will say is that he is willing to answer most questions. However, when he was on one of his "homosexuals go to hell bits" I asked him if hermaphrodites were aloud to have sex. He had no answer and then proceded to completely ignore me and just started spouting more hateful ****.

I have an autographed book and pictures.

It's a bad pic, but that's Jed in the suit next to my buddy Sree.

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	25-05-2003 12:59									#25
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Sree is in the orange. I forgot at first, but my other friend Ira is putting a "We're here, We're queer, Respect us" sticker on his back while he signs the book since they were having a gay rally at ASU that day and they were passing out those stickers. It was really funny for the 5 minutes it lasted. Serves him right.

	25-05-2003 13:03									#26
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Oh, and as long as I'm thinking about it...

Jed said he preached on the street and not in a church because he wanted to do it like Jesus did. He wanted to live like Jesus did.

Well, Jed. Jesus gave everything he could to those that needed it more than he, and you're sitting there in a nice suit signing a book that you sell in that pic benefitting from all you've gained by conning the people who actually believe your hateful ****. ****ing hypocrite.

	25-05-2003 13:15									#27
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 GREEEKS EXPLOITOI G BLAKCNS IN FRICA AND THEN SAY HEY ARE COMMUNISST

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There was a preacher guy, who does television shows in the US, American guy, really famous too coming here doing a show for huge crowds. We were thinking with few of my buddies that we should go there, dress nicely and sit quiet. We'd be scattered all over the place and not next to each other. Then one by one we'd stand up and say something stupid like 'I can feel it' and then pass out there. Or 'I can walk!' or something. We decided not to, because there was going to be lots of people and they liked him, so it would have been kind of bad taste so we didn't do it. But it would have been fun!
He was making money there obviously. Prices were outrageous anyway.

As for Street Preachers.. I haven't seen them.

	25-05-2003 20:57									#29
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Hey Agathon, ever watch the guy who stands outside the Eaton's Centre on the weekends who goes on and on about evil gay people?

Man, nothing wrapped up a day down in the gay village like a trip to Preacher's Corner and then shopping.

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I have seen evry few street preachers in NY. The most vocal actually were the "Black Israelites"/ I have very little clue about their message; The most i learned was the White people were evil. They used to have a big precece in Tomes square in the mid 90's, but the police no longer tolerates them there. I guess oyou are tolerated only if you are selling 100 come on lines, or 450 sexual positions for a dollar.