25-05-2003 11:41									#1
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where to begin.
we have 6 cities, 3 of which are in revolt and another has an elvis to keep the peace . MARTIAL LAW NEEDED
5 cities size2 and one size 1, we need larger cities to support a larger army.

we have 4 warriors , all are fortified in cities for defence and martial law.

we have 5 archers (1 none) all are out exploring or pretending to. I suggest we continue exploring with the none unit while trying to move the others back into cities for martial law and defence from barb attack or of AI attack

we have 2 horsemen, both are out exploring, I suggest they continue with these duties.

we have one settlers unit, I suggest we use this unit to build some roads on shielded grassland to produce more trade and to eventually build roads joining our cities.

I ask that the president build more warriors for martial law, explorers for exploring this giant world we live in and once we find some AI, build some chariots so that our armies can bring the heads of our enemies back to our people on a platter.

I will post reports for each city and the units it supports with polls for peoples +1 needs.
Imperialis= http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87160
Majestica = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87159
Pax Apolyton = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87157
Dominion = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87153
Enron = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87152
Glorificus = http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87151

Last edited by Hydey on 25-05-2003 at 15:24

	25-05-2003 15:29									#2
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I hope I have completely confused everyone with all of this
* Hydey baffle brains with BS

any questions ? do not hesitate to ask as we have been elected by the people to serve the people

please feel free to call me a fool and provide better ideas.

	25-05-2003 17:17									#3
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sounds good to me...now just hope the ppl vote likewise

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	25-05-2003 17:19									#4
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a tick from the master

	25-05-2003 17:34									#5
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as you seem to be reccomending several rush buys, could you provide a maximum cost and a minimum reccomended rush cost? we do have 159 gold which is a lot for this time in the game, but can go quickly when rushbuying.

Also, as the acting city planner, do you have any plans to build temples to free up some of the military from crowd control at music concerts?

	25-05-2003 17:46									#6
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by SCG

as the acting city planner,/QUOTE]

I am not acting city planner, I just put the polls in to help the people with more information.

I'm sure the president will have a big say in city planning until we get a city planning minster.

	25-05-2003 17:48									#7
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quote: Originally posted by SCG as you seem to be reccomending several rush buys, could you provide a maximum cost and a minimum reccomended rush cost?

Thankyou for your input, i shall have one of my amazons look into it.

	25-05-2003 17:59									#8
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I recomended 2 rush buys:

Pax Apolyton to rushbuy a settlers (surrently have 18 shields)
change to horse and buy 4, change to archers and buy 25, change to settlers and buy 25

total for rushing settlers = 54 gold

Enron to rushbuy warrior = 19 gold

total cost = 73 gold leaving us with a further 86 to play with.

I hope this answers you question.

	25-05-2003 19:28									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey I will look after the city planners post

quote: Originally posted by Hydey I am not acting city planner, I just put the polls in to help the people with more information.

gotta love politicians Notice how he dodges the question about temples even when asked in reguards to freeing up more soldiers to fight with

quote: Originally posted by Hydey I recomended 2 rush buys: . . . total cost = 73 gold leaving us with a further 86 to play with. I hope this answers you question.

I'd say that covers the basics of what i asked if you feel the minimum reccomended and maximum are the same

	25-05-2003 20:03									#10
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Thumbs up to Hydey for his excellent and detailed polls (also helping to deal with our lack of a city-planner).

I certainly appreciate the good information that is coming out of these polls.

	25-05-2003 23:35									#11
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I agree with everything except for the explorers. Instead of explorers, we should build settlers to improve our land and expand!

	26-05-2003 03:23									#12
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quote: Originally posted by JJJ I agree with everything except for the explorers. Instead of explorers, we should build settlers to improve our land and expand!

Our cities are too small so I suggested explorers as we have another 80% of the map to see and 6 AI's to meet , then when our cities grow a little with units to provide martial law we can build more settlers.

I did try to suggest a ballance with units for martial law, settlers for building roads etc and explorers.

	26-05-2003 03:27									#13
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quote: Originally posted by SCG gotta love politicians Notice how he dodges the question about temples even when asked in reguards to freeing up more soldiers to fight with

I didn't dodge anything, as minister of war I would love nothing better than to have temples in all our cities and more troops in the field but as our cities are so small and production so limited that (IMHO) it is best to let the problems be controlled by martial law for now and then as production improves build temples.

	26-05-2003 04:28									#14
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I expect that the (vacant) City-Planner recommendation would be for Temples in all cities.

	26-05-2003 05:11									#15
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If I was City Planner I'd say wait with temples for Mys.
A 10 shield warrior is now a lot cheaper solution to our happyness problems.

	26-05-2003 07:42									#16
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quote: Originally posted by atawa If I was City Planner I'd say wait with temples for Mys. A 10 shield warrior is now a lot cheaper solution to our happyness problems.

part of the problem with using martial law is that we can only use 3 units. if we found several more cities as seems to be the direction here, we will wind up using 3 martial law units in size 2 cities, meaning we will already be cutting into production, either from unit support, or from needing one of the workers to be entertainers to keep the peace. Not to mention the temple will be a bit more long term, and won't need to disband as many units. The tradeoff of course is the 1 gold for maintenance vs the loss of shields in production.

	26-05-2003 14:50									#17
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I think we all agree that temples will be built in cities as soon as it is apropriate. but for right now a quick solution is needed .

	26-05-2003 15:41									#18
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quote: If I was City Planner I'd say wait with temples for Mys. A 10 shield warrior is now a lot cheaper solution to our happyness problems.

Under a Monarchy perhaps, but not Despotism.

	26-05-2003 23:04									#19
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Why not?

	27-05-2003 03:19									#20
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We don't earn much coin under a despotism.

I usually rush for Monarchy and then build temples as the cities grow.

	27-05-2003 10:06									#21
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Trouble is at 27 turns per tech, monarchy is a ways off at this stage, unless we get exceptionally lucky in the hut popping stakes?

	27-05-2003 21:10									#22
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Our distance from Monarchy is really disturbing. It appears to me that we are 6-7 turns from Ceremonial Burial and then it will be (30?) turns to Monarchy. We can't survive that (well maybe we can survive it, but we'll be looking up from a very deep hole)!

I think the fastest way we are likely to get it (other than a lucky hut-pop, which I never count on) is to find someone and trade for it. Trading for Cer Burial before we discover it would be almost as good.

	27-05-2003 22:34									#23
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Glorificus and Enron should grow quickly (being on rivers) once monarchy is discovered and the rest will not be far behind because they are on mostly grass. We need some roads to increase the trade arrows and get monarchy, after that most of our current problems will disappear.

Set taxes to max science, (I’m sure it has been done)
Bring home the archers (that are within reasonable range of a city) to help with martial law, and let the cities build whatever will help them grow. IIRC in despot you get one unit per worker for free, and each city has at least two workers. Therefore we can put down the rebellious nonsense and find some foreigners to steel some tech from.

Do whatever it takes to get to the crown!

	27-05-2003 23:47									#24
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My best guess is that we are going to be consolidating some units while sending the rest out to explore and find other civs for tech trade to balance what we have missed.

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	28-05-2003 00:50									#25
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well i would send the addtition units (warriors) with the sets and just keep founding cities, dont' worry about city penalty until its madatory to have a temple in there...if you send the warriors with, then your unit support isn't as severe as you just rehome...providing you dont' have too far to wander or are not using the set for maintenance

	28-05-2003 00:58									#26
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That's a "substantial" new icon there friend! Wow...

	28-05-2003 11:32									#27
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It seems that we have gained most of our techs from Hut Popping. How about taking a punt, maximsing tax to coinage and luxuries (to control the rampaging masses) and get our technoligies via trade and popping ye olde huts?

	28-05-2003 16:42									#28
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	28-05-2003 20:45									#29
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear That's a "substantial" new icon there friend! Wow...

its my warrior to nukes upgrade via leos (Rah atually found it and sized it for me)

they remember the dark times..... the day War4ever invented nukes and dropped holy hell on the game.....