27-05-2003 07:44									#1
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I heard the films here were so bad they were laughed at by Hollywood... some I never even heard of.. can anybody provide me a clear article on what this fiasco was about? And what is the Elephant film? I just briefly heard of it.. don't know the specifics.. another one of those anti-american movies? Sheesh...

	27-05-2003 10:21									#2
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Cannes is an anti-American festival held by the International Organization of Communists (IOC). They also preside over the Olympics.

	27-05-2003 10:47									#3
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Notice how Cannes and communist both start with c.

	27-05-2003 10:58									#4
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Hollywood is the last place on earth that can laugh at the artistic qualites of movies.

	27-05-2003 13:21									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Fez And what is the Elephant film? I just briefly heard of it.. don't know the specifics.. another one of those anti-american movies? Sheesh...

Now there's a classic Fez quote.

	27-05-2003 15:46									#6
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If Cannes had been a anti-american filmfestival Doville would have won at least two prizes instead of the elephant film. Dogville was loved by all critics except the ones from USA who wounderd why Lars von Trier would like to erase America from the world map basicly.

The filmfestival is by no meen anti-american. It's a filmfestival that still to some degre isn't as commercial as the Oscars.

Over and out

	27-05-2003 15:50									#7
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the elephant film is based upon the colombine masacre. I don't know anything of the quality of the film though. What I've heard though is that it is a follower of those crazy right religious freaks in US who still belive that the cause of the massacre is Drugs and violent videogames. A pro America film then, ay?

	28-05-2003 01:05									#8
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The problem with Cannes from what I heard is that the films were of very poor quality.

I don't think it is.. Ambro.. the developer is some wacko... but not at all religious from what I heard...

More here...

You gotta read that to believe it.

I am stunned...

	28-05-2003 14:11									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Fez The problem with Cannes from what I heard is that the films were of very poor quality. I don't think it is.. Ambro.. the developer is some wacko... but not at all religious from what I heard... More here... You gotta read that to believe it. I am stunned...

Stunned by what, exactly? That someone thinks gun violence in the US is a problem? That someone would make a fictionalized account of Columbine? That the director of Drugstore Cowboy and Good Will Hunting (along with a lot of dreck, admittedly) made a good film? Stunned that it was well-reviewed in a Canadian paper?

You really need to get out more...

	28-05-2003 14:19									#10
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just imagine what Fez could think of Dogville and its brechtian dramaturgy and distanciation....

spoiler(highlight to read): thank you, comrade brecht, said Lars Von Trier

	28-05-2003 16:06									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly Stunned by what, exactly? That someone thinks gun violence in the US is a problem? That someone would make a fictionalized account of Columbine? That the director of Drugstore Cowboy and Good Will Hunting (along with a lot of dreck, admittedly) made a good film? Stunned that it was well-reviewed in a Canadian paper? You really need to get out more...

You really have to read the whole article.

And I know what gun violence is.. I lived in Latin America long enough to figure that out.

This isn't a good film.... I am just stunned anybody bothered looking at it.

	28-05-2003 16:08									#12
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Fez reads The Toronto Star!! No wonder he's on a rant all the time.

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Fez is starting to sound a lot like a conservative American. I think you'll fit right in with the jingos in this country Fezzikins! You're already thinking in black and white. If Cannes isn't worshipping and praising the great American God, then they must be dirty commie pigs! Warm up the helicopter! IT'S COMMIE THROWING TIME!

	28-05-2003 16:15									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Fez reads The Toronto Star!! No wonder he's on a rant all the time.

The article was on drudgereport.

Sava, you fool.. I didn't say anything about my views on gun violence infact if you read the article you see why I am stunned. I am just waiting for somebody to read the entire thing and point out what I am stunned about.

	28-05-2003 16:17									#15
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huh? I didn't say anything about gun violence?

	28-05-2003 16:19									#16
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Well Sava, you said I was seeing everything in black and white. Obviously I thought you were talking about it. You really don't get it do you? I didn't say my views on this.. I am just stunned about this movie and why it received any recognization.

	28-05-2003 16:42									#17
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So, just to sum up, your position is: "I haven't seen this award-winning film, but based on this excellent review, I must conclude that it's bad."

	28-05-2003 16:45									#18
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LOL.. just from what I heard about it... I can come to my own conclusions. But mostly I am just stunned... if anybody here would read the entire article you'd see why.

	28-05-2003 20:59									#19
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Fez reminds me of those people who protested the Life of Brian, before it was even finished. "It's blasphemy,I don't need to see it to know it is wrong," they shouted.

Go see the film Fez. Then your opinion might mean something.

	28-05-2003 21:25									#20
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I am going to see it.

You are not understanding what I am saying. And because of this I will post the section that was the part that stunned me:

quote: There's also a scene in Elephant where Alex and Eric climb into a shower together and share a passionate kiss. The real Columbine killers were rumored to be homosexual lovers. Van Sant, who is openly gay and often addresses tough homosexual themes in his films, said the scene is one of innocence, not sexual politics.

Are these rumors about the real killers infact true?

	29-05-2003 03:52									#21
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I've read the whole review and I fail to see why you are shocked Fez. Actually, it rather motivates me to go see the movie, despite it looking technically crappy.

	29-05-2003 04:49									#22
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Not shocked.. just stunned... I didn't know there were even rumors like that...

	29-05-2003 05:10									#23
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I read that the field of contenders wasn't so strong this year. Has anyone seen the films are they any good?

	29-05-2003 18:55									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Fez LOL.. just from what I heard about it... I can come to my own conclusions. But mostly I am just stunned... if anybody here would read the entire article you'd see why.

OK, I'll bite. I have read the article and have yet to find anything "stunning" about it... other than the fact that France is stepping up its efforts to crack down on copyright theft.

	29-05-2003 19:30									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I read that the field of contenders wasn't so strong this year. Has anyone seen the films are they any good?

I've seen one, Les invasions barbares. It's a very good movie IMO. It's both very Funny and very sad. Miramax will distribute it in the States. But I'm afraid some jokes will not translate very well in english.