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Ribannah
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The Netherlands, Embassy of the Iroquois Confederacy
Aug 2000
time: 06:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-17-2001 07:55 PM
For an OCC champion to give on-line tutorials during a competitive game is a little stupid. The only people to benefit are the other side. Can you see any of them making my mistake?
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Yes, I can  .
After all, they missed Cope's just like we did  and are having a hard time, they deserve some foreign aid  .
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Email us or tell us at the end of the game. Does the Pentagon intentionally broadcast its secrets to the Kremlin during a Space Race ... ?
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Actually, yes, but only what they wanted them to know ....
I'll have lots more to tell after the game. And I don't WANT to be a Smiley
P.S. I'm halfway my turns now, the spaceship is under construction! 
P.P.S.S.: I'm replaying this one solo, starting from my own 2750 BC save, in the year 1 AD I have: Hanging Gardens, Colossus, and I'm about to complete .... The Oracle!! Something new for me to learn every time as well.
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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire
[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited March 18, 2001).]
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Ribannah
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The Netherlands, Embassy of the Iroquois Confederacy
Aug 2000
time: 06:12
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In the year of the lord 1875, Santa Ribannah takes over and starts gifting
1875 10 techs to the Indians, traded for Communism to make Radio available next turn
---- Exchanged maps with the Indians and the Indians became our ally
---- 300 gold to the Vikings for a Cease Fire, gave them 27 techs, exchanged maps
---- 450 gold to the Japanese for a Cease Fire, gave them 27 techs too, exchanged maps
---- 1000 gold and 13 techs to the Romans, exchanged maps
---- 150 gold and 12 techs to the Chinese, exchanged maps
---- 900 gold and 10 techs to the Egyptians, exchanged maps
---- Discoveries now come some 20% faster
---- Not without risk, but we needed to speed things up or we could have bigger problems when the AI's start swapping tech
1876 Hides produced, Flight discovered -> Radio
---- 4 Hides to Bombay (4x372) and sold Research Lab
1877 SETI PROGRAM built, Radio discovered -> Advanced Flight
1878 Hides produced
1879 Oil produced, Hides to Bombay (368), Romans: CURE FOR CANCER
1880 Hides produced, Advanced Flight discovered -> Rocketry
---- 3 Hides to Karachi (3x306), 2 Hides to Bombay (2x372)
---- Traded Radio for Espionage (Indians) to make Space Flight available
1881 Manufacturing Plant built, Rocketry discovered -> Space Flight
---- 5 Hides to Bombay (5x372)
1882 Offshore Platform built, Space Flight discovered -> The Laser
---- We now make more than 80 shields
1883 APOLLO PROGRAM built
1886 The Laser discovered -> Plastics
1887 Roman Engineers settle nearby Palmyra
---- Gave Advanced Flight to the Indians to maintain alliance, get Labor Union
1890 Hut: 100 , Indians discover The Laser
1891 Plastics discovered -> Superconductor
1892 Indians have Rocketry
1893 150 gold to Chinese, Hides to Beijing (662)
1894 Superconductor discovered -> Fusion Power
---- Oil and Hides to Beijing (2x540)
1895 Egyptians: J.S. BACH'S CATHEDRAL
1897 Component #6 built, Fusion Power discovered -> Guerilla Warfare
1898 Bribed Indian Spy for 342 gold, gave 1000 gold to Romans
---- Indians end alliance  as we won't join their war with the Romans
1899 Embassy with Romans, we steal Theology (Palmyra), disbanded both transports
---- Indians start Spaceship
1900 Module #3 built, bribed Roman Diplomat (292) and Indian->None Marines (669)
That's it, we should launch in 1907 and land in 1922 probably just a couple of years ahead of, hmmm, the Romans or the Japanses I guess. Keep bribing all the troops that show up and don't gift any vital techs!
Edit: zipped save sent to kcbob and Paul
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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire
[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited March 18, 2001).]
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Julius Brenzaida
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Currently cleaning the 9000 rooms of Sticky Mouse's Palace
Aug 2000
time: 05:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Ribannah on 03-18-2001 07:37 PM
I know
In Lightning Strikes I had rush-built lots of granaries only to see them sold by my successor
I gave you a hint about the happiness button because I've been there, too, believe me. Breaking an alliance just to get your troops home can sometimes win the game for you
IMHO everybody is allowed to make lots of mistakes, and I won't think less of anyone who does. Both teams are making a terrific effort, btw. But I also want to learn all the time. That's part of the fun for me: to do a better job next game. (Did I say I am a perfectionist? )
So don't hesitate if you want to question my decisions! For all I know, the Japanese will be the first on AC now ....
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Yeah, I'm a perfectionnist, too. But what I like about civ is that I can enjoy it fully without hating myself. Once I won a chessgame but couldn't sleep for 2 days because I missed some beautiful rook sacrifice. But, I had won the game against that strong opponent !
For the happiness button, I knew of it. That only makes my mistake look worst. But it was only 3-4 turns before the end of my reign.
I've got a question. Not a reproach, but a question. Was it wise to give those 27 techs to the Japanese in 1875 ? It speeded up a bit our research but it looks like it helped them quite a lot. Not that I would have done better ...
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Tom DeMille
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Kingston, Ontario, Canada
Jan 2000
time: 00:12
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Team 242. Gee that awful site I picked at the start has turned into a 4 special. Cool. Sorry about sinking all ours boats, but they were getting in the way of our WLTPDs.
1000AD - Egyptians - Navigation, 150 gold
1020AD - built salt caravan
1040AD - built caravel
Egyptians - 125 gold
1060AD - Egyptians - 75 gold
Knights (NONE)
1100AD - meet Japanese, diplomat expelled
1120AD - Japanese - share maps
1140AD - Egyptians - 150 gold
1160AD - Sanitation, start Theory of Gravity
cloth to Carthage - 102 gold
Egyptians - 50 gold
1180AD - built sewer system, begin WLTCD (pop is 12)
1200AD - disband trireme (to keep WLTCDs going with caravel at sea)
1220AD - troops that were with trireme have been expelled by Japanese
1240AD - Egyptians - 100 gold
1300AD - Theory of Gravity
meet Indians,
Indians - Feudalism
1340AD - Indians - share maps
Egyptians - Physics
1360AD - meet Vikings, share maps
Vikings - Chivalry
end WLTCD (pop is now 21)
1420AD - Invention
alliance with Indians, war with japanese
1440AD - cease fire with Japanese
salt to Delhi - 704 gold
1460AD - Democracy, revolution (sorry, I didn't bother with Odeo's table )
1480AD - built Isaac Newton's College
disband caravel
interestingly carthage grew to size 22, and then famine hit (because of anarchy) and it returned to 21
1500AD - switched to Democracy, begin WLTPD (size 21)
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18-03-2001 10:51
Hides Freight
I'm having trouble finding time for this game amongst the "honey do" lists at home. Please forgive me but could Julius take over? I'll send it to him momentarily. Again, sorry. 
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