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deadfuse is offline deadfuse
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May 2003
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  Old Post 29-05-2003 01:36
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Ok, I got the economic side of the game down. I was playing a 2v2 game on a huge (6-player) map that was four big islands separated by water.

My ally quit early in medieval, leaving me to face to moderate comps.

Using germans, I quickly jumped in front economically; I was ahead by over 4000 points. I had established naval dominance and was blowing any fisherboat or dock I could find to hell. I had set up a network of towers and forts on my island that repelled a good half-dozen dedicated attacks. I was already in Modern age when the comps were still researching Industrial.

So since modern is when the germans get their unique units and since I was already ahead in the tech race, I decided to attack. I had Versailles and Statue of Liberty.

I used a bunch of tiger tanks, german machine guns, half a dozen helicopters, half a dozen bombers, half a dozen fighters, a general, and like 10 spec. ops to kill spies and such.

I figured with such technology, I would be able to plow through the computers. While I am nowhere near as good at the military side of it as I am at the economics, I can consistently beat moderate with other civs.

With Germany, I can't win a single battle. That above-mentioned force got its ass whooped by riflemen and a few bits of artillery. How the hell is that possible? What am I doing wrong? Is it my mix of forces, are there specific things I should be doing with the german military, or is the "superior" german warmachine a gimp?

Carch is offline Carch
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Suffering from ads?

It'd help to see the recorded game...

In general I have no problem winning battles with a technologically superior force. Maybe you weren't focusing on the right enemy units? Hard to say without seeing the battle.

albiedamned is offline albiedamned
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Sep 2001
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  Old Post 29-05-2003 03:35
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I agree that I would need to see the replay, but artillery is very powerful in this game. So perhaps it was mostly their artillery beating you, and you need to focus more on taking it out. Targetting your artillery on his is a good idea, as is using commandoes on it. And of course cavalry/tanks/armored cars are good at it.

Bridger is offline Bridger
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Mar 2003
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I notice you brought no artilery or light/heavy infantry or supply wagons along? Also, don't bring any machine guns when your attacking, they are best used defending. maybe bring 2 to defend seige, but really just leave them for defence.

You had no regular infantry? Why in gods name wouldn't you bring any light infantry? They are the core of the army. And no anti-tank infantry either?

Jaybe is offline Jaybe

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Sep 2001
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Tanks vs. heavy infantry are at a disadvantage, even if the heavy infantry are obsolete. Pay attention to the "strong vs. ..." and "weak vs. ...." Just as battleships can lose to fire ships (predecessors to submarines) if they get close enough to ram.

See the back cover of the rule booklet.

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