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That is one of those nice ideas that gives everyone warm fuzzies but which, in practice, turns out to be extraordinarially stupid. I suppose we should have let the Germans choice there own way to deal with religious minorities? Opps, they did. The British were totally evil Christians who were pushing their values upon everyone else when the royal navy ended the tran-atlantic slave trade. Nope we can't have those damn WASPs telling people how to act. Coordinated action to end female sex slavery is imperialist so we'd better not try to deal with that issue. We don't want to offend anyone you know; we just want them to develop according to their own values. |
First, you can't compare nazi ideology to the veil tradition. In the first one the government killed people and did the most terrible things and i don't agree with any ideology or custom that is racist or harms people. However, in the veil case most women wear it because they want. (although in some middle east countries the government forces women to use it, which, of course, i don't agree). In Irak women were forced to wear it but when saddam was gone and the US ''liberated'' irak, the women continued with the tradition, which proves that although some countries force women to wear it (which, i repeat, i don't agree with) the veil thing is a custom very arraigated on their culture. perhaps a society with equal rights and that stuff is better than their society but it's the job of that society to work out equal rights for themselves and other country should never impose its culture over other (except in cases where people really suffers ie: Nazi Germany, Afghanistan, etc.).
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:28
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Does this count as a threadjack?
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Protestant
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before
me.
Catholic
1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt
not have strange gods before me.
Hebrew
1. I am the Lord thy God, who brought
thee out of the land of Egypt, out of
the house of slavery.
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Protestants and Catholics seem the same. There's a problem with the Hebrew one, in that this is not the first commandment. You're citing Exodus 20:2,
"I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery."
rather than Exodus 20:3
"You shall have no other gods before [1] me."
20:2 is the preamble, and not the commandment.
2nd commandment, again, protestants and Catholics are the same.
Let's see what your source cites for the Hebrew:
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the
Lord thy God in vain.
We should be seeing Exo 20:4-6
"You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."
Instead, you've cited the third commandment out of order. This throws off all the numbers by one down the list. The combination of the 9th and 10th commandments is seen in Exodus 20:17
"You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."
Exactly the same as the Protestant and Catholic citations.
All the other 'commandments' cited are not the Ten Commandments given to Moses, on the mountain of Sinai, as described in Exodus 20.
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The Vagabond
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of realpolitik and counterpropaganda
Jan 1970
time: 05:28
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Just recently, Russia's Supreme Court showed itself quite wimpy over the issue:
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Russia's Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that devout Muslim women would be allowed to cover their hair for passport photographs, despite a controversial point in Russian law explicitly forbidding it. "The court overturned the earlier ruling. So they will now be allowed to wear headscarves in the photographs," a court spokeswoman said.
An earlier appeal lodged by women from the mainly Muslim province of Tatarstan was overturned by the country's top court in March, in a ruling condemned by rights activists as a sign of growing anti-Islamic sentiment in Moscow.
President Vladimir Putin backed that ruling during a visit to Tatarstan last year, saying all regions in Russia should abide by national standards.
Devout Muslim women are required to wear a headscarf, or hijab, and cover much of their bodies as it is considered sinful for a woman to reveal her hair or skin to anyone other than her husband or immediate relatives.
The Interior Ministry, especially sensitive on the issue because of the security threat from separatist-minded Muslim Chechnya, says wearing a headscarf or hat in a passport picture makes identification difficult. "The Koran is not a legal document on the territory of the Russian Federation," a ministry spokeswoman told Interfax. "We have a secular state and no one religion should dominate."
Human rights groups accuse Russia, which has 20 million Muslims in its 147 million population, of fostering anti-Islamic feelings as part of Moscow's bid to halt a separatist rebellion in Chechnya.// Reuters
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