29-05-2003 06:41									#1
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You heard about that woman who ran over her cheating husband? she's all in court and what not...

whole thing could have been avoided if we just followed the lead of some other countries and made adultery a crime... i can't see why not?

and apparently, from what i've heard, one person cheating has no bearing on divorce proceedings? is that true?

	29-05-2003 06:42									#2
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What is with your incessant need to force your morals on everyone else?

Get off it.

	29-05-2003 06:43									#3
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What are you nuts? What, you gonna put people in jail for screwing someone else's wife?

	29-05-2003 06:45									#4
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We'd lose a whole lot of presidents that way.

	29-05-2003 06:46									#5
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Asher:

Morals? So you don't think cheating on your wife is a bad thing?

	29-05-2003 06:49									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Asher: Morals? So you don't think cheating on your wife is a bad thing?

Bad thing doesn't equal crime and criminal punishment.

An analogy: you don't hang someone for stealing food.

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Asher: Morals? So you don't think cheating on your wife is a bad thing?

I think it's none of the government's business.

Whether I think it's a bad thing or not is irrelevant, I believe it's far worse to have wingnuts like yourself legislate morals.

	29-05-2003 06:49									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Asher: Morals? So you don't think cheating on your wife is a bad thing?

Of course he does. But the act of adultery does not infringe upon any rights. There is no right to force your spouse not to screw anyone.

	29-05-2003 06:51									#9
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You did well, Jaguar.

	29-05-2003 06:53									#10
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Hmm, first we X-posted, then I edited out the thing you replied to. We aren't very coordinated.

	29-05-2003 06:53									#11
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Are you really this anally-retentive and dumb, or just a troll?

quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer You heard about that woman who ran over her cheating husband? she's all in court and what not...

So her lack of self-control is relevant to the state deciding its in the business of where everyone puts their parts?

quote: whole thing could have been avoided if we just followed the lead of some other countries and made adultery a crime... i can't see why not?

Ah, soooooo. Wise man say instead of one murderer in jail, let's lock up lots of people, have tens of thousands of police waste their time checking on who **** who.

quote: and apparently, from what i've heard, one person cheating has no bearing on divorce proceedings? is that true?

Not counting other countries, there's 50 US states and a bunch of territories, each with their own dissolution laws.

Since the secular aspect of marriage is essentially a partnership contract with a bunch of asset ownership issues, various enlightened legislatures decided the process would be a more efficient use of taxpayer dollars if it stuck to asset ownership issues and the interests of the children (if any) vis-a-vis custody, visitation, and support, as opposed to the old fashioned method of staging live auditions of "Jerry Springer live at Peyton Place."

	29-05-2003 06:53									#12
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If my wife cheated on me, I'd take her computer and give her everything else, then go find me a boy.

	29-05-2003 06:54									#13
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I think marrige should be a crime, it is a religious idea and should be seperate from the state.

	29-05-2003 06:55									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Asher: Morals? So you don't think cheating on your wife is a bad thing?

It's a private matter between the parties affected. Not the state's business in the slightest.

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quote: Ah, soooooo. Wise man say instead of one murderer in jail, let's lock up lots of people, have tens of thousands of police waste their time checking on who **** who.

the cops would be too busy arresting each other

	29-05-2003 06:57									#16
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Adultery was a crime in most states before the 1960s though mostly an ignored law.

I'm glad it's gone other wise just about all of us would be guilty since we've had premarital sex.

	29-05-2003 06:57									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us I think marrige should be a crime, it is a religious idea and should be seperate from the state.

That's why civil marriages with no religious connotations at all, and common-law marriages have been around for centuries. You can always shack up, or spend the rest of your life with your favorite hand, so there's no compulsion to get married.

	29-05-2003 06:57									#18
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Hmmmm, do I smell the whiff of bias there, Asher???


In answer to the question - no. Now let's talk about tighty whities - THOSE should be a crime!

	29-05-2003 06:57									#19
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Speer -

quote: whole thing could have been avoided if we just followed the lead of some other countries and made adultery a crime... i can't see why not?

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"...

But why do you assume adultery isn't already illegal in Texas and that outlawing adultery would have prevented this from happening? Btw, what would have also prevented this incident from happening was the woman not running over her husband.

	29-05-2003 06:59									#20
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In some southern states it is still illegal to recieve or proform oral sex. I don't know how they enforce that rule though.

	29-05-2003 07:02									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Morals? So you don't think cheating on your wife is a bad thing?

I personally would have no moral problems with having sex with other people than my girlfriend (as I consider sex and love to be separate despite being linked to each other), and I would have no moral problems with it the other way around.

But my girfriend has moral problems with it, so we settled not to cheat on each other

I don't see why the law should regulate this. If the couple or one of its members considers the cheating makes the couple meaningless, by all means, let them divorce. But if the couple is able to get over it, I don't see why the law should show its nose in these private business.

	29-05-2003 07:03									#22
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alright fine... woman finds out her husband has been cheating on her with some skank... she loved him with all her heart and now finds out that his love was bullshit...

tell her there is nothing wrong with the act of cheating...

	29-05-2003 07:04									#23
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actually, it is a crime in some states...not necessarily prosecuted, but still on the books...and...having worked in the legal field now for just shy of 20 years, it does have some influence in divorce proceedings too.

	29-05-2003 07:04									#24
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quote: That's why civil marriages with no religious connotations at all, and common-law marriages have been around for centuries. You can always shack up, or spend the rest of your life with your favorite hand, so there's no compulsion to get married.

I know, I was being a smart-ass

	29-05-2003 07:05									#25
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I am proud to say I have never cheated on a girlfriend. Though one did cheat on me.

	29-05-2003 07:07									#26
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quote: tell her there is nothing wrong with the act of cheating...

Not a single person in this thread has stated that there is nothing wrong with cheating; it is simply a private matter to be settled by the involved parties and, if necessary, in civil court.

	29-05-2003 07:07									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer alright fine... woman finds out her husband has been cheating on her with some skank... she loved him with all her heart and now finds out that his love was bullshit... tell her there is nothing wrong with the act of cheating...

You really can't be this stupid in real life, this must be a troll.

Nobody has said anything about there being nothing wrong with cheating on your wife, they are just saying that nobody should have the right to put someone in jail for it.

	29-05-2003 07:08									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer alright fine... woman finds out her husband has been cheating on her with some skank... she loved him with all her heart and now finds out that his love was bullshit... tell her there is nothing wrong with the act of cheating...

Can't you tell the difference between right and wrong without the government telling you what to do?

Right and wrong depends on the relationship. Some couples are into that kind of "open" relationship -- why would you make their act illegal?

What's wrong with the current situation, where the wife can divorce or girlfriend can break up with a guy who cheats on her?

I can't understand your obsession with having the law force everyone to behave a certain way.

There's something very wrong about that, perhaps we should legislate that away, too.

	29-05-2003 07:09									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Ishtar actually, it is a crime in some states...not necessarily prosecuted, but still on the books...and...having worked in the legal field now for just shy of 20 years, it does have some influence in divorce proceedings too.

In divorce cases Adultery is grounds for one of the partners to recieve a smaller share of common assets. A guy who cheats on his wife often finds the wife with 70% instead of 50%.

	29-05-2003 07:10									#30
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Jail?

I was thinking more along the lines of the victim getting basically everything in the divorce proceedings and the adulteror being fined and having his wages garnished...