29-05-2003 09:17									#1
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Surprised there is no thread on this yet.

18 years...Patrick Roy was a goalie almost as long as I've been alive.

	29-05-2003 09:19									#2
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About time.

	29-05-2003 09:20									#3
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Gee... must be nice to be young... I was getting old when he was just a rookie

It's a great loss to the NHL. It's unfortunate he had to go out as he did... lossing to Minny early in the playoffs.

He was one of the best... First round HOF material.

	29-05-2003 09:26									#4
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He's been in my black book ever since he refused to play for Team Canada in the Olympics.

	29-05-2003 09:28									#5
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But, damn! He was good.

	29-05-2003 09:34									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Asher He's been in my black book ever since he refused to play for Team Canada in the Olympics.

You won the damn gold medal last time. Quit bitching.

	29-05-2003 09:39									#7
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay You won the damn gold medal last time. Quit bitching.

So? This is Canada! Imagine if MJ had refused to play for the US in BBall. What would you say about him?

	29-05-2003 09:46									#8
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Imagine if MJ had refused to play for the US in BBall. What would you say about him?

That he was the best Basketball player of all time.

And since he brought 6 championships to my hometown... GO MJ

	29-05-2003 09:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither But, damn! He was good.

No. Damn he IS good.

	29-05-2003 10:05									#10
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I'm not too terribly fond of his Olympics choice, either... But it's still too bad to see him go.

Through all these years, up until his last game, he was the only goalie in the league (save for maybe Brodeur) who I could definitively say could beat anyone on any given night. No matter what was going on, what the circumstances were, he would give you trouble like nobody's business.

There are many great goalies in the league, still (Belfour, Richter [is he retiring this summer?], Khabibulin, Turco), but they just don't have (at least yet) that special something that Roy had, and still has today. It's too bad that he went out like he did, but what with his arthritis and all... It was probably the right choice.

Marty B has just been upgraded to Best Active Goaltender status.

	29-05-2003 10:10									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ming That he was the best Basketball player of all time. And since he brought 6 championships to my hometown... GO MJ

Yeah, but you'd still mutter an odd 'bastard' if he refused to play for the national team. Even if they won. That's why it's...

damn! Why is that bastard so good?!

	29-05-2003 10:15									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Ming That he was the best Basketball player of all time. And since he brought 6 championships to my hometown... GO MJ

But he sucks at golf.

	29-05-2003 10:24									#13
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He's better at golf than I am

	29-05-2003 10:32									#14
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There's a lot of women, and probably some cripples, who are better at golf than you are.

	29-05-2003 10:36									#15
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Nah... based on my USGA Golf Handicap, I'm better than 90% of those that play golf... But MJ is still better than I am.

And I know that all the women on the LPGA are better as well

	29-05-2003 10:39									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse But he sucks at golf.

The sport he sucks at is baseball.

	29-05-2003 10:41									#17
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What about the cripples? Won't someone think of the cripples?

	29-05-2003 10:42									#18
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Just the other day he shot in the 11Xs. That's horrible. I've never played golf and could probably beat that.

	29-05-2003 11:08									#19
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Everybody has their bad days.... but yeah, I can beat that

	29-05-2003 12:10									#20
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Slightly off-topic, but still tangentally goaltender-related:

Did anyone see the highlight reel save by Holmqvist on Salmelainen in game 1 of the Calder Cup finals? That's probably the best save I've seen all season, NHL included.

	29-05-2003 14:12									#21
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Oh no! How will Siegfried manage?

	29-05-2003 14:58									#22
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Ya he turned during the chance to represent his country at the Olympics, but let's not forget what he has done.
From the Globe:

Apart from the statistical evidence of his greatness, Roy was also something of a trail blazer. He adapted the butterfly style of play and refined it to the point where now, the majority of goalies in the league play the game that way, dropping easily to their knees to cover as much of the net as physically possible.

Among the goaltending fraternity, Roy's influence and innovativeness was second only to that of Jacques Plante, who invented the goalie mask.

Roy won four Stanley Cup championships - two each with Montreal and Colorado - and is the only three-time winner of the Conn Smythe Trophy, awarded to the playoff MVP. He retired as the NHL's career leader in victories with 551, 104 more than runner-up Terry Sawchuk, and games played with 1,029.

In the playoffs, Roy is the NHL leader for most games played (247), minutes played (15,209), shutouts (23), consecutive wins in the post season (11 in 1993), and has the most 10-plus win playoff campaigns (9). Roy claims the NHLís second longest scoreless streak in the Stanley Cup Finals (227:41, the longest since 1926), and became the first goaltender since 1965 to record two shutouts in the Finals (2001). His .616 winning percentage is good for third all-time.

	29-05-2003 22:43									#23
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Yeah, but he's still a ***** .

We may say Ty Cobb was an awesome baseball player... but that doesn't change how much of an ******* he was.

	30-05-2003 04:07									#24
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While I will miss seeing him play, the thing I will really miss is my wife's keen ability to spot him on the TV screen while passing through the room and say 'Patrick... Wwaaaaaaaah!'

She rocks.

	30-05-2003 05:07									#25
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If you use a mathematical approximation no one is good at golf. Golf also has the problem of rampant cheating held in the guise of an astonishing amount of rationalizations.

	30-05-2003 23:35									#26
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Unquestionably one of the top 3 goalies ever to play the game, with Plante & Sawchuck being my other two picks (honestly not sure how I'd rate them in relation to each other, especially since I never saw the latter two play ).

I hope the Montreal Canadiens will at last fully bury the hatchet with him and raise his #33 to the rafters where it belongs; I'd love to see him don the CH one last time and be appropriately honoured for what he accomplished during his time with the club. (And for that matter, get Larry Robinson's #19 up there too!)