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Cruddy
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Maybe the X-box project becomes more sensible - anyone who knows about networks runs a mile away from Windows.
Not that I count myself in that number - it's just an opinion formed from observation.
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
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Originally posted by Cruddy
"To live in fear is to be a slave".
Think about it - the rules for programming are still being written. There is no "ultimate" OS yet. Be flexible, JW. I've changed OS and hardware about 6 times now. The first time is always the hardest. |
I've changed from literally dozens of OSes.
I've had BSD, Linux (about a half-dozen distros), Solaris (school), AIX (school), DOS, Win3.1, Win9x, WinNT...
Windows XP SP1 is the "ultimate" OS right now when it comes to desktop.
Windows Server is close to being the "ultimate" server, once it's even more scalable and has the rewritten CLI. Right now, BSD is the "ultimate" server.
Linux is the jack of all trades, master of none. That's its failing. It does everything, but that includes all the **** you don't want it to, in ways you'd never think (ever look at the filestructure in 99% of linux installs? Does it make sense to most people? etc)
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Cruddy
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Asher, you misunderstood me. Aren't all MS servers vulnerable to MS overwatch?
It makes it unacceptable to foreign govts and multinationals who have dirty laundry to hide.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:28
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Cite? |
Eh, I know 'cause I know the guy upgrading the ones in Canada.
However, this article mentions them as well as the cool EEC.
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The first round of EEC testing involved almost 50 customers, all of whom tested Windows Server 2003 upgrades, migrations, and deployments. Customers typically spend two weeks at the EEC--though the Australian tax office was in for almost six weeks--and Microsoft can host up to five customers at the EEC simultaneously. More important, several problems and 650 design changes were made to Windows Server 2003, thanks to input from EEC attendees. And there have already been a number of repeat customers, such as Intel, Siemens, Chevron-Texaco, and Continental Airlines. |
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"Before the EEC, we were limited in how we could test larger engagements, where more products are involved," Santino told me. "It's amazing how these things interact. Most environments we've tested are heterogeneous. For example, Chevron-Texaco was interesting, because they merged two totally different environments. But Barnes & Nobles was almost pure Microsoft, and there were no conflicts." |
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Clearly, a major Western city adopting Linux is insufficient to make it mainstream in the World of GlonkTM. |
It is insufficient to make it mainstream in the World of Glonk...it's government PCs in Germany, why is that mainstream in the World of Glonk? 
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Of course, you can then explain to me why MS is targeting the OS as its main competitor. |
What other OS competes for it on the PC? 
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Angelo Scotto
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Milan, Italy
Oct 1999
time: 05:28
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
As I predicted last year, the OpenSource movement would slowly gather momentum. This bodes well since Munich is the biggest Western city to make such a move. Beijing, Korea, and some South American counties did it last year, and so did some smaller Western towns and cities.
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I truly think that governments should move to Linux, at least for Bureaucracy works.
Like i said in other threads, i don't think Linux is great "technologically speaking" but who needs a on-the-edge OS to print certificates, or to store citizen data?
Governments will get it for free, without having to pay dozen of licenses and cutting down administration costs, and with source codes they will be able to customize the OS and applications for their needs.
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Ari Rahikkala
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Unreported loss of streaming in atomic read operation
Oct 1999
time: 07:28
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
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And it's 14,000 PCs, government PCs. You're totally out to lunch again about Linux becoming mainstream because of 14,000 government PCs in Germany. But it's great sketch material...   |
Clearly, a major Western city adopting Linux is insufficient to make it mainstream in the World of GlonkTM. Of course, you can then explain to me why MS is targeting the OS as its main competitor. |
Erm... tell me, is it realistically possible to post a piece of news and say that it implies that an operating system is becoming mainstream? I mean, things like this don't just happen in a day, they're advancements over the span of years. On the other hand, to claim that a person is "totally out to lunch about Linux becoming mainstream because of 14,000 government PCs in Germany" is also sort of wrong, since news like this can be seen as a part of a trend. What should be reported is not the single cases of governments and businesses here and there switching over, but the global trends. Statistics don't look quite as nice as anecdotes, but at least they're a bit more meaningful.
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Linux is the jack of all trades, master of none. That's its failing. It does everything, but that includes all the **** you don't want it to, in ways you'd never think (ever look at the filestructure in 99% of linux installs? Does it make sense to most people? etc) |
* Ari Rahikkala points at the major RPM-based distros and screams: "It's them! They're the ones that made people think that GNU/Linux is bloated!" ... then remembers that most people think that RedHat equals Linux and goes into a corner to sulk *
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