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War4ever is offline War4ever
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i doubt mark will like it tho

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quote:
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I really didn't think his avatar was that bad. Surely, it is just as bad as all those commies with there hammer and sicles; a flag under which even more people were murdered then the Nazis


On the other hand, the US has murdered more people per capita, meaning it's really good at it.

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Hahaha I missed this gem

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Any anti hindus out there?

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Own goal.


Actually, what you had there was 100-nil.

Own goal would be what he should have replied if he knew that the trap was there.

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Actually... we don't play those games here

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quote:
Originally posted by Zylka
Any anti hindus out there?


Did you actually pay attention to the contents of this thread? This is the Hindu/Buddhist "swastika"

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Like I said, I've seen both forms in the Hindu (indeed, Hindu, not Buddhist ) parts of Asia.

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There exist many types of signs which stand for the Swastika. Even the standard version has two forms, the one facing the right - also called the symbol of- the right hand path and the one facing the left, called the symbol of the left hand path. These two Swastikas are also considered to represent the male and female. There is also a Swastika which is an amalgam of these two types


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A common form of the Hindu swastika symbol:

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Locutus,

Yes, sometimes the Hindu symbol is drawn clockwise, but it would be nigh impossible to distinguish it from the Nazi one without context, e.g. used as an avatar. You can never go wrong with the counterclockwise one, however.

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Well, I'd say either both are still prety darn close to the Nazi swastika and should prolly be avoided in avatars, unless there's a very good reason for it. But I guess it really depends on the exact form of the swastika and its context (or lack thereof) as well: nobody seems to have a problem with the swastika in Uber KruX's avatar (though I'm not sure how long he's had it). Like someone already said: a lot comes down to intent... (which in Zylka's case doesn't leave much room for doubt )

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How 'bout a swastika made of smilies? Surely that can't be so bad.


it still remains a swastika

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Man, what really makes me angry is that I posted a lot in DissīNazi-thread, while here people get +1s for posting about (nearly) the same topic

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nobody seems to have a problem with the swastika in Uber KruX's avatar
If they remove Uber's I can think of at least one more that needs to go considering the offensive symbol he formed it out of.

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Nono, your avatar is ok, DD

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Nono, your avatar is ok, DD
What exactly was the difference between Zylka's avatar and this one?

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I hope you donīt ask me, since Iīm not making the rules here....

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Zylka's was a swastika, that one isn't.

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DD, I'm not saying it has to go (personally, I would think that would be rather silly: it's clearly mocking the two ideologies depicted).

The difference between hammer & sickle and swastika is that hammer & sickle are symbols of communism in general and are used by communists all over the world, while the swastika is a symbol of Hitler and Nazi-Germany in particular: other fascist regimes use different symbols.
That, combined with the fact that fascism by its very definition preaches rasicm and hatred, while communism is at its heart a perfectly acceptable ideology (even if it may arguably never work in practice and has been abused as an excuse for terrible atrocities).

Anyway, I don't make site policy, so my opinion doesn't count anyway

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Letīs complain all here about the avatars of the otherīs . Iīm sure the admins and mods will be impressed

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Yeah, I find your avatar sacrilegious.

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And Iīm insulted by the absence of your avatar!!!

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At least he brought a flag...

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and look, he wasn't burning it.

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I didn't even notice that was whut Uber's avatar was supposed to be

You can't change Templar's avatar! That's a graphic from CivIII!

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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Uber used one before and was "moderated".


Uber is still sporting a swastika. One that mixes and matches the top two murderous ideologies of the 20th century. Good going, man!

Edit: I see that this has already been noted. My bad.

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Well, I'd say either both are still prety darn close to the Nazi swastika and should prolly be avoided in avatars, unless there's a very good reason for it.


Well...

If you have seen both of them once, you could tell the difference. At least I could

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and look, he wasn't burning it.


Ah, if the swastika was burning, it'd fine.

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* H Tower wonders when someone will complain about his avatar, even though it's only to represent a position in a democracy game

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You see, this is the problem! I, for example, never even noticed your avatar involved anything (I have to squint to see it anyways ).

No one ever does any harm until someone overly sensitive raises the alarm. If it weren't for the alarm-raising, I wouldn't have noticed Uber's, H's, or probably even Zylka's...oh well, Apolyton must be sensitive and cuddly-fuzzy I guess

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