29-05-2003 13:45									#1
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Am I the only person who holds that the use of the Nazi swastika as an avatar should not be allowed?

	29-05-2003 13:47									#2
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Uber used one before and was "moderated".

	29-05-2003 13:56									#3
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He did? Oh. I didn't notice.

	29-05-2003 14:48									#4
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I couldn't give a **** about what Zylka does or doesn't do with his avatar.

	29-05-2003 15:20									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Am I the only person who holds that the use of the Nazi swastika as an avatar should not be allowed?

I don't think it should be banned.

	29-05-2003 16:11									#6
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i don´t like it, but I don't know which rules do we have here

	29-05-2003 16:22									#7
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Like FP says :

quote: I couldn't give a **** about what Zylka does or doesn't do with his avatar.

Or are there people on 'poly who have never even seen a war film or whatever. Its just a cross with legs. But if Zylka wanted to put anything on his avatar I wouldn't care. You know what he's trying to do, and UR has taken the bait starting this thread.

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	29-05-2003 16:48									#8
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While I tend to agree, that avatar sets a less friendly tone to Apolyton than does, say, FP's avatar. Mind you, I have not even seen Z's current avatar.

	29-05-2003 16:53									#9
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I thought it was a joke for the banning the nazi party thread.

Made me laugh

	29-05-2003 16:56									#10
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On my last vacation to SE Asia, they had swastika signs on pretty much every street corner in the Indian/Buddhist parts of the cities I visited. It's quite a popular symbol of luck/prosperity among Buddhists, but somehow I suspect Zylka's not using it for its religious significance...

	29-05-2003 17:32									#11
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Maybe they were Finnish Air-Force -symbols (Like swastikas, but lines were pointing the other way)?

	29-05-2003 17:52									#12
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Yes... people have been moderated for using swastika's before.

Zylka's avatar has been removed, and he's been told not to use them again.

	29-05-2003 18:06									#13
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Tuo,
IIRC I've seen both variants. Apparently Indians aren't very particular when it comes to such symbols

	29-05-2003 19:22									#14
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Now that it has been settled, please close this thread.

	29-05-2003 19:27									#15
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quote: Apparently Indians aren't very particular when it comes to such symbols

...DaShi is right, you know...

	29-05-2003 19:52									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Am I the only person who holds that the use of the Nazi swastika as an avatar should not be allowed?

We allow the hammer and sickle.

	29-05-2003 20:32									#17
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The nazi symbol is not allowed here because it's use is forbidden in the law of Germany, or so I'd guess.

	29-05-2003 20:35									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu The nazi symbol is not allowed here because it's use is forbidden in the law of Germany, or so I'd guess.

The server isn't located anywhere near Germany.

	29-05-2003 20:37									#19
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Yeah Tuo, and everyone knows that Apolyton is subject to the laws of Germany...

	29-05-2003 20:40									#20
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No... it's not allowed because many feel it's offensive.

Now granted, there are some other avatars that some feel are offensive as well, but not to the same extent as swastikas. If a lot of VALID complaints are made about a persons avatar, we look into it, and make "the call"

Also, avatars that cross the line in terms of "good taste" and "sexual content" have also fallen into the category of having the user "asked" to change it.

Yeah... there are really no set rules, and some may think it's arbitrary at times... But that seems to be the nature of the beast.

Common Sense seems to be the general rule of thumb.

	29-05-2003 20:43									#21
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FP, DD -- > Luckily there aren't any users from Germany, either?

quote: No... it's not allowed because many feel it's offensive. Now granted, there are some other avatars that some feel are offensive as well, but not to the same extent as swastikas. If a lot of VALID complaints are made about a persons avatar, we look into it, and make "the call" Also, avatars the cross the line in terms of "good taste" and "sexual content" have also fallen into the category of having the user "asked" to change it. Yeah... there are really no set rules, and some may think it's arbitrary at times... But that seems to be the nature of the beast. Common Sense seems to be the general rule of thumb.

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	29-05-2003 21:23									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus On my last vacation to SE Asia, they had swastika signs on pretty much every street corner in the Indian/Buddhist parts of the cities I visited. It's quite a popular symbol of luck/prosperity among Buddhists, but somehow I suspect Zylka's not using it for its religious significance...

Those are not swastika signs. Those signs are mirror images of the Nazi swastika. That is a buddhist symbol that predated the Nazi symbol for a couple of thousand years.

	29-05-2003 21:27									#23
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet I couldn't give a **** about what Zylka does or doesn't do with his avatar.

I am not sure about the UK, but in many countries, open displays of Nazism are illegal, and so are open assemblies of neo-Nazis. For the very least, that is a symbol of hate, racism, war, and repression.

	29-05-2003 21:41									#24
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UR,
Like I said, I've been both the 'real' swastika's and their mirror images...

	29-05-2003 21:58									#25
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Damn nazis always ruin everything. The swastika, the Charlie Chaplin mustache, and so on.

	29-05-2003 22:25									#26
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I'm sure intent plays a large part in the admin's decision here. In this case the probable intent was to wind people up.

	29-05-2003 22:28									#27
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ixnay,
Those are the least of my beefs with the nazis

	30-05-2003 00:32									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Those are not swastika signs. Those signs are mirror images of the Nazi swastika. That is a buddhist symbol that predated the Nazi symbol for a couple of thousand years.

would you be happy if zylka mirrored his avatar then?

	30-05-2003 01:08									#29
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Actually, the Buddhists will often use both sides.

	30-05-2003 01:59									#30
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i hate hate haters.