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Locutus is offline Locutus
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A very simple question for (native?) English speakers... Support Apolyton

If you're very frustrated and finally something comes along that ends your frustration, you could imagine that you would shout "Freedom!".

How do you put this in words properly? Screaming for freedom? Screaming in freedom? Screaming out of freedom?

I hate English prepositions...

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I usually don't do that.
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That's a very poorly written question. Can you please rephrase?






The "Freedom" shout as you describe it is freedom from, i.e., freedom from worry, freedom from oppression, etc.
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"Screaming out of freedom". Like "crying out of joy". That is, if freedom is a sensation, an emotion. If freedom was a concrete place, like getting out of a prison, you could consider it "screaming in freedom". "Screaming for freedom" would be closer to screaming, well, for freedom.

Out of the options I'd use "out of" myself.
Arrian is offline Arrian
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You screamed "Freedom!" Not from it. Not of it. Not out of it.

Screaming for freedom? - Implies you don't have freedom, but want it, and are therefore screaming.

Screaming in freedom? - Doesn't work at all.

Screaming out of freedom? - Doesn't work at all.

-Arrian
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Thanks for the quick replies. But never mind, I decided to keep it short: http://apolyton.net/ron

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Yes, it would just be "screaming freedom." No prepositions.
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Freedom fries.
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quote:
Screaming in freedom? - Doesn't work at all.

Screaming out of freedom? - Doesn't work at all.


Yeah, they do somehow sound... wrong. "Made up".
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screaming at freedom
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I wasn't too sure what he is asking for: the word to describe the shout, or the preposition to describe how the feeling of "Freedom" was derived.

For starters, I don't think the guy would be screaming. Shouting is a better word, unless he is mindless with rage or something.

If not, then your sentence should be along these lines: "As he plugged the coppers while making his jailbreak, he shouted out 'Freedom!' "
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"Sing Out" or "Cry Out" seems like it would fit better than "Screaming." You scream when you're frightened or in pain.
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Out of a sense of freedom.
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Hmm, thanks for the info, JohnT. You leave me wondering what would make a better title: Makes you scream or Makes you shout "freedom!"...
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quote:
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You scream when you're frightened or in pain.


That's not true. People scream when they are angry, for instance...
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Yes, it would just be "screaming freedom." No prepositions.


That's what I think too...

And then probably crying or shouting out as JohnT and loinburger said (unless he's really going ballistic).
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Okay, shouting it is. Thanks, all...

(Merc, check out the Dutch 'Poly meet thread, if you haven't already...)
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Cry Freedom, like the film etc.
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Damn, I don't think I ever edited a news item more often: changed the title 3 times, got into an argument with the news script over which quote-signs I was allowed to use and credited the wrong person for the news tip

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Well, I would yell:

I am FREE!

Though "freedom" equates to being free, you would not yell "freedom," but rather the word "free." Is this what you mean Locutus?

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I would say "cried out freedom"

At least that's how I would describe what Mel Gibson does at the end of Braveheart
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quote:
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Freedom fries.

crier de liberté
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quote:
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Well, I would yell:

I am FREE!

Though "freedom" equates to being free, you would not yell "freedom," but rather the word "free." Is this what you mean Locutus?


I would agree with that.

"Free at last" is a common expression when a burden or commitment is liften.
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Exactly BC.

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Well, Mel Gibson obviously isn't that eloquent...
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Nope. He's just hilarious!

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Well , he didn't have a forum back then of course

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quote:
 Originally posted by cyclotron7


cyclotron7 quote:
Originally posted by loinburger
You scream when you're frightened or in pain.




That's not true. People scream when they are angry, for instance...


I have known women to scream in other... shall we say more joyous circumstances ! (Though I've never heard them scream "Freedom")

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