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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Chinese 'Justice'
A journalist gets two years in prison for telling the truth.

BY CLAUDIA ROSETT
Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:01 a.m. EDT

Enthralling though the Jayson Blair saga may be, let's spare a moment for a journalist who has landed in far worse trouble--not by telling lies, but for his brave and honorable efforts to document firsthand the truth about one of the most terrible stories of our time. He's a South Korean photographer, 33-year-old Seok Jae-Hyun, who over the past few years did freelance work for the New York Times, among others.

Since January, Mr. Seok has been in jail in China, where last Friday he was handed a two-year prison sentence for "trafficking in persons." Translated from the lingo of that perversity known as China's "judicial" system, this means Mr. Seok was detained in Yantai, China, while trying to photograph the efforts of a group of North Korean refugees to flee China, aboard two fishing boats. Their hope was to reach asylum in South Korea and Japan, achieving not only safety for themselves but world attention for the plight of North Korean refugees still hiding and hunted by authorities inside China.

The plan failed. On Jan. 18, Chinese security agents rounded up the aspiring North Korean boat people, the private relief workers helping them and Mr. Seok. Reports vary on the fate of the Koreans; China's policy is to return them to North Korea, which harshly punishes such would-be escapees. But this much is clear: While China's President Hu Jintao is traipsing the globe right now, buffing up China's image following the SARS coverup, Mr. Hu's regime, by imprisoning Mr. Seok, has just tidily arranged to hide another of its gross misdeeds--Beijing's cruel mistreatment of North Korean refugees. Returning them to North Korea not only violates human decency but makes a mockery of China's obligations as party to the United Nations Convention on Refugees. Mr. Seok's two-year sentence will go far to deter further reporting inside China, making it much easier for Beijing, unobserved, to shove refugees back into North Korea.

For this reason alone, Mr. Seok's case deserves world attention. But there are other reasons, too. Mr. Seok is that rare sort of South Korean who, despite the craven national brand of appeasement called the "sunshine policy," had the courage to tackle the true predicament of North Koreans fleeing the world's most repressive state. Most of Mr. Seok's countrymen, as well as their newly elected president, Roh Moo-Hyun, pay lip service to the idea that their kin in the North deserve better lives. But Seoul's real effort over the past decade has been to help preserve the regime with which Kim Jong Il keeps North Koreans enslaved--lest South Korea's quality of life be compromised by 23 million or so famished, ragged countrymen suddenly set free.

The numbers tell the tale: Last year a total of 1,141 North Korean refugees arrived in South Korea. That's more than twice the number in 2001. But the grand total to date is estimated at a mere 2,000. This is utterly trivial in face of 200,000 to 300,000 thought to be hiding out in China (though Beijing's illicit policy of forced repatriation has been whittling that number down). As Western diplomats and North Korean defectors have confirmed to me over the years, South Korean practice is to quietly deflect refugees whenever possible, lest the generous welcome of a few encourage an exodus of many.

If you believe that a country has a soul, or at least some sort of animating set of beliefs, then South Korea's habit of discreetly locking out their hunted, desperate kin to the North has got to be deeply corrosive to the South Korean spirit. A great measure of dignity and relief might well come of a national effort in South Korea to stop behaving like kids and cowards, and instead start actively helping North Korea's refugees, while calling on the world, especially China, to do the same.
However, South Korea's government directs its efforts toward stifling the testimony of defectors and stymieing their attempts to speak to the world---and, specifically, to visit and testify in the U.S. The South Korean government has asked for Mr. Seok's release, but the decibels have been too low even to rise above the clink of wine glasses at the banquets attended by President Roh during his maiden visit to the U.S. earlier this month. Far more telling was Seoul's decision last month to oh-so-delicately abstain from a vote by the U.N. Human Rights Commission condemning North Korea for "widespread and grave abuses."

Not that all blame should go to South Korea. Plenty belongs to the U.S., which has done little to press the refugee issue or welcome North Korean defectors to America's own shores. And most directly culpable is the U.N. While it is specifically charged with aiding refugees, the U.N. has been stunningly silent about the North Koreans (in contrast to its vocal efforts last month to hold onto its lucrative oil-funded aid programs in Iraq).

If the U.N. high commissioner for refugees, Ruud Lubbers, possessed the courage and convictions of a Mr. Seok, he would have used his agency's ample resources to make a crusade of helping the human beings fleeing the holocaust that is North Korea. But as it has played out, while Mr. Seok was awaiting his sentence in China last week, Mr. Lubbers was in Washington pocketing a fresh U.S. pledge of $85 million for his refugee agency, which doesn't even list the North Koreans among the clients of its official rescue operations.

In all the international grappling over how to handle North Korea, with its famine, repression and policy of nuclear extortion, the most safely and easily addressed problem--and the most chronically dismissed--is the issue of providing asylum for the refugees. Along with the towering moral argument summed up by the phrase "never again," help for North Korean refugees carries some possibility of bringing down a regime that on any grounds--global security, regional stability and basic morality--must go. Whatever debate about the Pyongyang regime we are now hearing in Washington still translates into no help whatsoever for ordinary North Koreans. And Mr. Seok, who hoped to photograph refugees reaching freedom, is now in prison himself, in China. This is called the triumph of evil, and it is no small matter.

Ms. Rosett is a columnist for OpinionJournal.com and The Wall Street Journal Europe. Her column appears alternate Wednesdays.



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I could have added a phrase on UN (and US) silence, but that would have been over doing it.

So, here we have a tradgedy in four parts -- the plight of North Korean refugees, the unwillingness of South Korea to help them, the persecution of those who are willing, and the silence of the world-at-large.

It make me sick.

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That's what happens when you have *******s like Kim Jong-Il holding millions of people hostage.

What happens if you welcome them with open arms, the floodgates open, and Dear Leader and his top cronies decide this doesn't benefit their futures? How many people's lives would you bet on predicting that rabid SOB's behaving rationally?

And now, he has or is about to acquire nukes.

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I know, MtG, it's just the hopelessness of the situation is so frustrating. To help is to literally risk the lives of millions in and around Seoul, and probably Japan, as well. To just sit on our hands and let other millions be condemned to living in that hellhole...dammit, what can we do?

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And how about the New York Times' giant voice.

Here's all the news that was fit to print in the Times about their employee.

CHINA: 5 SENTENCED FOR AIDING REFUGEES A Chinese court sentenced five people, two of them South Korean, to prison terms of up to five years for trying to smuggle a group of North Korean refugees out of China in January, a court official said. The court in Shandong Province sentenced Choi Yong Hun, a South Korean aid worker, to five years in prison and Seok Jae Hyun, a freelance South Korean photographer who tried to document the failed operation, to two years, the official said. Two Chinese citizens and a North Korean were sentenced to two to three years. The verdicts were criticized by the Committee to Protect Journalists, based in New York, which called for Mr. Seok's release. Mr. Seok has done freelance work for The New York Times and Geo, a South Korean magazine, and has taught photojournalism.
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This is a big problem in journalism. Media outlets use cheap freelancers to cover the world's trouble spots and then forget about them when they get injured.

Compare this coverage to the coverage of the full-time NY Times reporter who got murdered.

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At least here there's pretty compelling reasons not to act unless we see something clearly in our interests.

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This is a big problem in journalism. Media outlets use cheap freelancers to cover the world's trouble spots and then forget about them when they get injured.


Tim Page, anyone?

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Ah, yes. Your freedom fighters are my terrorists. Your "plighted refugees" are my "illegal immigrants." You pot, me kettle.

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You troll, me no understand intended point of troll?

How many journalists have we imprisoned for two years lately?

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Your "plighted refugees" are my "illegal immigrants."


HAHAHAHA That's just what I say about the clandestine boatloads of starving Chinese that wash ashore Vancouver island all the time! LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COMMON BOND HERE!

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MtG,

I was making two points. First of all, we do not have full information of the story. Is Mr Seok really innocent? Or rather, is he really clean of any criminal offenses? Secondly, what would happen if RoK accept any and all DPRK refugees without restraint? It'd like Germany right after reunification, but a lot worse off.

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What makes you think North Korea would let them go?

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I know, MtG, it's just the hopelessness of the situation is so frustrating. To help is to literally risk the lives of millions in and around Seoul, and probably Japan, as well. To just sit on our hands and let other millions be condemned to living in that hellhole...dammit, what can we do?


And just imagine that. in a few months or a year down the road, to do anything NK considers "hostile" means putting lives at risk in the continental United States as well.

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I know, MtG, it's just the hopelessness of the situation is so frustrating. To help is to literally risk the lives of millions in and around Seoul, and probably Japan, as well. To just sit on our hands and let other millions be condemned to living in that hellhole...dammit, what can we do?


That's why the South Koreans preferred their "Sunshine Policy." The only way out is to help the DPRK to develop its own economy.

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I don't think the economy is really the problem, it's the amount of that economy devoted to the military.

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It's not a simple issue. Sure, military spending is huge, but that's because the DPRK is paranoid. The US making threatening noises just shows that they are right. The more they are pushed into a corner, the more extreme they'd become.

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What corner? China has their back, and is (or should be) a major source of trade. Nobody is throwing rockets over their heads, either.

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A huge influx of North Koreans would not be a desirable thing from Beijing's standpoint. That region is already suffering from a lot of labor unrest due to lay-offs and plant closures throughout China's north eastern "rust belt".

Chinese actions can in part be explained by the cultural willingness to trade increased social stability at the expense of individual freedoms. This is the root of many differences between China and the West, e.g. Chinese people's bafflement at westerner's concern over "human rights" (most Chinese think this is a complete non-issue).

That's not a blanket excuse, it's part of the context of the situation.

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The US has been making threatening noises for the longest time, and tossed a spanner in the recent North-South peace talks.

And, of course, all that moronic "Axis of Evil" talk.

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The North Koreans don't have a huge military because they fear the U.S. They've had a huge military since the regime began, and the U.S. could have obliterated them whenever they felt like it with nuclear weapons. The reason that they have a huge military is to keep the greatest amount of direct control over the largest possible number of people.

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The reason that they have a huge military is to keep the greatest amount of direct control over the largest possible number of people.


Which is exactly why the US has a huge military, right?

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How many journalists have we imprisoned for two years lately?

Don't tempt us!

Which is exactly why the US has a huge military, right?

Dumb troll. The US, with about 30x the population of NK, has only a couple hundred thousand more soldiers under arms.

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Dumb troll.


No. A joke. A bad one, probably, but a joke nevertheless.

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Dumb troll. The US, with about 30x the population of NK, has only a couple hundred thousand more soldiers under arms.


That depends on the ratio.

Suppose the UK had only a few thousand military personal, a couple hundred thousand more is several hundred times. On the other hand, suppose the UK had a few million of them, of course a couple hundred thousand more is nothing.

Clearly, number of men is just part of the story. Another part is military spending.

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Terrible story, But still a lot of navel gazing. Is this the only journalist in danger in the whole world? Hmm, I wonder how nay journalist were killed worldwide in the last few moths and we heard about them?

The fact is that most stories around the world are not reported. The reason this woman did this piece (as is obvious from what she writes about politics, besides from the facts of the story) is to add criticism against policies towards NK, urging a harder line.

What the Chinese are doing tpo the reporter and to the refugees is despicable, but to argue for an end to it would be to argue for a host of huamn rights that if truly carries out would demand susbtantal reform for all states. hence, no one will really call for these changes.

Sad.

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GePap, how does that make it any less legitimate?

Of course we don't know all the stories in the world, we're not omniscient. That's not a reason to not care about the stories we do know about.

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i'm surprised skorea isn't raising a bigger stink.

give me a gun, drop me near pyongyang. i'll take care of this.

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