31-05-2003 12:08									#1
	Statue of Liberty - Extremely Important? Tired of ads?

In my games, the Statue of Liberty is the "must get" wonder, for the no attrition effects. Has anyone else experienced this, or am I overrated the Statue?

	31-05-2003 18:50									#2
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I'd consider it only if the Russians were in the game... it has some other nice bonuses.

I consider colossus and eifel my must gets.

	31-05-2003 19:03									#3
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No attrition + free upgrades... do you really need more ?

	31-05-2003 21:20									#4
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id rather have +50 pop

	31-05-2003 21:27									#5
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In Information Age the extra pop is, of course, fantastic. 50 more units in those huge battles mean that you win them. Still, Statue of Liberty is outstanding .

	31-05-2003 22:11									#6
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yeah Ive recently learned that they could have +10,000 percent atrition and the statue of liberty, with its -100 percent, negates it. insane....

	31-05-2003 23:21									#7
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I still don't think SoL is all that great. Collosus and ToT (and maybe AW) are my favorites for the early game. For late game i like kremlin and eifel tower (and of course the inf age wonders ROCK).

	01-06-2003 00:02									#8
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Eiffel Tower is great for economy, yeah... ToT is something I can live without, though, usually.

	01-06-2003 00:22									#9
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DON'T YOU DARE EVEN START IT. IT'S MINE!!!

i mean, no. of coruse not.

	01-06-2003 13:35									#10
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I'd never turn down a wonder- you can just put any one of them in my backyard.

I like them all, and each have their bonuses.

	01-06-2003 13:41									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Eiffel Tower is great for economy, yeah... ToT is something I can live without, though, usually.

yea, i never bother with ToT. i usually have a decent (not booming) timber economy, right up until it becomes relatively obsolete. i never find myself that short changed.

	03-06-2003 21:39									#12
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Someone had a post on the heavengames about a great use of SoL: Use it to upgrade, for free, lots of oil-dependent units like heavy cavalry. No need to go to the market and suddenly buy up a lot of oil to start producing tanks. Simply make a ton of heavy cav. and make the SoL. Then, roll into enemy territory with no worries about attritions.

http://ron.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/...&f=12,1517,0,10

	04-06-2003 00:35									#13
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Statue of Liberty has to be one of the best Wonders. I like the no attrition as a side bonus; the free upgrades is wonderful. Especially when playing as Egypt: build the Statue in the Enlightenment Age, then as soon as you hit Industrial all of your cavalry get upgraded to tanks absolutely free and instantly. It's great to launch an Enlightenment Age attack when you have the Statue and are about to hit Industrial Age.

	04-06-2003 00:54									#14
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And a nice little twist - while enemy might have many Pikemen and be very happy with them against your cavalry, the moment they turn into Tanks, his pikemen are wasted.

	04-06-2003 05:14									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Solver And a nice little twist - while enemy might have many Pikemen and be very happy with them against your cavalry, the moment they turn into Tanks, his pikemen are wasted.

lol ud have to be 2 ages up on your enemy. wouldnt be too hard to win from that position anyway.

	04-06-2003 05:33									#16
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True.

	04-06-2003 23:52									#17
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I think the only good use for the SoL is if you also have the Terra Cotta Army.

	05-06-2003 01:46									#18
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quote: lol ud have to be 2 ages up on your enemy. wouldnt be too hard to win from that position anyway.

Nah. Pikemen as in Fusiliers. Fusiliers still die to Tanks like flies.