07-07-2003 14:08									#61
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yeah, I guess.... hehe, maybe If I put lines around the bottom of the pole, they could either be dirt or waves...?

Original skull..... you'll see it again in the terrain, its in one spot of desert... or is it tundra I forget...

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	07-07-2003 14:34									#62
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Good progress.

I like the idea of changing the border graphics. I'd prefer a flag or standard instead of a skull, personally, but it'll look good either way.

I'll definitely give this one a try once you've got something available for download.

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	07-07-2003 17:28									#63
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Ok, I'll have something downloadable soon, Its the Coastlines that are giving me the worst trouble, Lining them up AIYEE... I might resort to cheating like I did for the rivers.. Filters and B/W color Bonding, Then colourizing and filtering again, The rivers are Identical to the In game ones... I was really doing it for fun.. with intention of drawing later.. but they look ok.. So maybe...

Anyways... still working on the borders... check this out...

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	07-07-2003 19:43									#64
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Looking very cool. Great work.

	07-07-2003 19:52									#65
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the borders look cool, but im still concerned about how they will looks in water. Maybe you could make it look like the flags were on small hills? That way it would look like small islands in the water.

	08-07-2003 05:30									#66
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Yes I've checked again and the 'flags' do look kinda silly in the ocean, I've made the base look like a 'bouy' / 'rock' so that it could be ok... I've also made a 'Hover Disk, Spear, Actual Flag, Thug, and Outpost' as attempts... colouring them is another matter...

Ok, Flags aside for a second.. FEEDBACK...

I dont like the 'gaps and 'double-ups on the 'shading' By looking at the diagrams here, tell me.
Diagram A, shows the Gap and the double up.... Diagram B shows one way I could 'smooth' this, but then you get 'cuts' at each grid edge. Diagram C and D show possible solutions.. D2 is another idea where your boarder goes OVER into the next square, since the opposing colour is in the gaps of yours it doesn't affect the graphic...

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	08-07-2003 05:35									#67
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Heres d2... Sorta maybe...

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	08-07-2003 06:07									#68
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Bane Star, I just saw this mod, and I think the terrain graphics look fantastic! Like someone back on the first page said, kind of reminds you of hand-drawn Tolkien maps. Very nice work!

As for the borders... I don't know, I think it almost looks like they are out of place: them being so colourful, and the rest of the trerrain being so pale.... Maybe it would look good if you removed the coloured stuff "on the ground", and only left the skulls? Or potentially a black dotted line, and then the coloured skulls to denote whose territory it is? I don't know how it would look in the ocean, though...

PS: Sorry about the fairly poor photoshop job. I am just trying to convey what I meant better.

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	09-07-2003 10:08									#69
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Feedback, Which Flag would look better? and how should they be coloured....

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	09-07-2003 10:10									#70
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Oh and heres a cities pic

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	09-07-2003 10:20									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Bane Star Feedback, Which Flag would look better? and how should they be coloured....

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	09-07-2003 10:21									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Bane Star Oh and heres a cities pic

Amazing.

	10-07-2003 03:47									#73
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The second skull one, for some reason, seems vaguely reminiscent of a looney toons (or whatever they're called) character...

I like the last flag best.

Those city pics are great!

	10-07-2003 14:07									#74
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker I like the last flag best. Those city pics are great!

I agree with both of those comments.

	12-07-2003 10:40									#75
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Ok, personally I like this final skull, By simplyfying the design and playing with the shadow elements of the boarder colours, I have come up with this more subtle skull, Heres a screen shot, and next I'll post a zip file for anyone who'd like this in tier game

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	12-07-2003 10:43									#76
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here they are.
EDIT: Updated the file, I accidentally included an unfinished file before....

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	13-07-2003 08:40									#77
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Nice.

You may want to remove the hill curvature on the borders, though. It doesn't look right on the hand-drawn terrain.

	14-07-2003 19:07									#78
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marvelous. simply marvelous.

	15-07-2003 12:53									#79
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Absolutely fantastic, I think I just found a reason to start playing Civ3 again. i'd scrap the skulls though

	15-07-2003 12:56									#80
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Absolutely fantastic, I think I just found a reason to start playing Civ3 again. i'd scrap the skulls though

I agree apart from the skulls it is magnificent but the skulls are ridiculous (no offense the reast is great) I'd stick with normal borders

	16-07-2003 05:57									#81
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker You may want to remove the hill curvature on the borders, though. It doesn't look right on the hand-drawn terrain.

I agree with that.

	16-07-2003 13:10									#82
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I've made each of the graphics independant of each other, You can use my borders or the originals, or someone elses, My Terrain matches together, but my units will be 3D and colour, This Mod is designed for 2 reasons, 1. To make my Fantasy Mod, Totally Unique from Civ3, Nothing copied, all Original. and 2. To allow players to Zoom out on the Map screen and Print it for Use in roleplay/Other Games. Hence the B&W style. Looks like Old Parchment, gives you that kind of feel.

I'm going to put up seperate posts downloads, The terrain, The Cities, The Resources and The Borders. So people can pick and choose what they want to use.

	18-07-2003 08:37									#83
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Well Im both loving and using the skull borders, it makes it possible (finaly) to see the damned thing in deep jungle, good work bro

	22-07-2003 18:11									#84
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Lookin' Good BaneStar! I'll wait till the whole package is out and then probably mod all my graphics at once.
Personally, I like the skulls/flags idea.

	22-07-2003 19:07									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Bane Star I've made each of the graphics independant of each other, You can use my borders or the originals, or someone elses, My Terrain matches together, but my units will be 3D and colour, This Mod is designed for 2 reasons, 1. To make my Fantasy Mod, Totally Unique from Civ3, Nothing copied, all Original. and 2. To allow players to Zoom out on the Map screen and Print it for Use in roleplay/Other Games. Hence the B&W style. Looks like Old Parchment, gives you that kind of feel. I'm going to put up seperate posts downloads, The terrain, The Cities, The Resources and The Borders. So people can pick and choose what they want to use.

Will there be a version with the normal terrain instead of swamps and such ???

	24-07-2003 05:35									#86
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Keep up the FANTASTIC work!

	24-07-2003 08:53									#87
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This is looking very good. Do you have any formr art experience or any schooling in the subject?

	24-07-2003 09:59									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Elden Will there be a version with the normal terrain instead of swamps and such ???

Yeah, I'm doing it All for the Normal Terrains First, and then adjusting it for my own tastes second.... Mainly since the Conquests game is going to have Volcanoes and Swamps, Then I'll need to have an original set for that version.

	03-10-2003 06:17									#89
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Sorry I haven't posted on here for a while... The Hand Drawn is nearing completion, and I've been posting things in all sorts of places... Heres a Screen shot of where I'm up to... the blue '3's and re-colour some coasts is all that needs doing....

So how do I post the completed on here, its 6.7 Mg in total (allows for people who dont want to replace jungles with swamps.. or different 'borders'

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	03-10-2003 06:47									#90
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beauteous. the lake looks a bit funny, though.