22-03-2001 21:24									#1
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Who is your least favourite civ to end up next to? Is it always the game's most agressive ones (Mongols, Vikings, etc) or do you sometimes get suprised by civs you expect to be nicer than they are?

The worst I've found are the pesky French for some reason. The Indians are never as friendly as they should be either - the real Gandhi would never have ordered the kind of atrocities I've seen him do in games.

	22-03-2001 21:25									#2
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Oh, and the English are weak-assed little nancy boys, so maybe the most realistic civ of them all!!

	22-03-2001 21:37									#3
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I find the purple, dark blue and orange Civs to be the worst to deal with.

P.S. orange1, whereabouts in Scotland are you from?

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	22-03-2001 21:38									#4
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Hm..Let's see: The Mongols, The Zulus, The Russians, and The French seem to be the biggest treaty breakers and sneak attackers against me.

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	23-03-2001 10:14									#5
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I don't worry 'bout individual nasty Civs, but rather with groups of nasties. For instance a line up with Russians(me), Zulus, Vikings, Spanish, Mongols and others is far more scarry than if they were Japanese, Germans, Aztecs, and Indians. I get more worried when they can all gang up on you. One or two are easy to handle, but 3 or 4 gets me concerned.

	23-03-2001 10:39									#6
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Definetely the Mongols,Zulus, and Persians. They are always the most annoying late in the game especially if they are in fundamentalism. The Americans on the other hand are pathetic and never put up much of a threat.

	23-03-2001 10:56									#7
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My theory is: It depends whom one plays as...English have trouble with French, Spanish; Americans with Sioux, Japanese; Romans with Greeks, Persians etc.
I try to stay out of trouble by playing as Prince Incognito, leader of the
Unknown tribe (Anonymouis wise men)

	23-03-2001 00:04									#8
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When I played SP, the civ I always hated the most were the f'in french. They were always very competitive in the tech race and annoying to dispatch. Their emmisary is also such a homo that I couldn't wait to put his head in the guillotine. The sioux were always a pain in the ass too.

	23-03-2001 00:56									#9
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the only good neighbor is the destroyed neighbor...imho!

	23-03-2001 05:06									#10
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Here I have a draw: the English, the Russians and the Zulus.
GRRR!! I hate when the English call me just to say that they have
discovered X... From that moment, I start to plan their inconditional annihilation.
Cannot manage to be at peace with the Russians. Just bloody war.
The Zulus? When I see them, everything turns red and I don´t rest until I wipe them out.

	23-03-2001 14:47									#11
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Well ... I guess my list goes something like ...

1. The people at No 1 & No 5
2. The Welsh
3. The Scots
4. The French
5. and everyone else who knows me ...

	23-03-2001 18:18									#13
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South West - Ayr then Kilmarnock, but moved to London 4 years ago

	23-03-2001 19:32									#14
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I too live in London now - don't laugh SG, I call it revolution from within - and have done for about 1 1/2 years. Do you like it?
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	24-03-2001 10:07									#15
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Expansionist/aggressive civs are the 'hardest' which is Russians/French.

Militarist/Aggressive civs like Zulus can sometimes be screwed by the map, for example if you have two civs seperated by a small strip of water, and the others know your cities are there but have have no boats, the militarists will often just be caught in a loop constantly building obsolete units and 'patrolling' the coast...happens especially on earth map when a civ restarts in Britain and can 'see' your cities in France...endless elephants patrolling around...


Most annoying: Late game nuke by Ghandi when you have space flight.

	26-03-2001 04:50									#16
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Hmmm, nastiest neighbours? Toss up between war4ever and makeo.


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	26-03-2001 23:11									#17
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How about a good neighbour? When I play English, I always include the Americans, tho very competitive in space-race and top civ-wise, they're not too sneaky warmongers, and they're a joy to trade with, paying top dollar!
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	27-03-2001 08:29									#18
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Zulus, English, and Mongols are the worst for just coming along and starting off aggressive. The Spanish, French, and Persians are the great back-stabbers (mostly pesky, since you see it coming). And never let anyone build Manhattan Proj if Gandhi's in the game, since he will use them!

	28-03-2001 23:47									#19
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Lately ive played a lot on large and medium real world maps and i find russians most difficult opponents. the nasty sneak attackers can actually be easier, since they will start wars that i can easily win with defensive units behind city walls, then buy one of their cities, all without taking a repuation hit. The expansionist civs however will build lots of cities and beat me at my own strategy of early game expansion. On real word map Russians are worst with their good start position, others can be hemmed in.

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	04-04-2001 00:01									#20
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I am sorry, but like, H-E-L-L-O people, the greek!

They are really annoying expansionists. It's hell trading maps with them as they always have a huge uncovered territory which is full of wandering units.

They expand at a very quick rate. THe Egyptians do it as well, but the egyptians are much nicer.

Just came up to mind, the Greek are extortionist. I don't remember what I wanted from them, I think to declare war on someone, any way, I asked, they said ok, but pay us up. I grunted and payed up. And then they also ask for a tech. Ok, I had enough buffer zone so I gave it. Plus I wanted my two biggest enemies to tear each other apart. And then they say: That's really nice but we want another tech! I was so furious. I refused and they thanked me for the presents and went home.

I can only remember what I planned to do to them as the thing it self was so inhumain that my sub concious erased it.

	04-04-2001 01:54									#21
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The Mongols.

With their stupid war games they can slow me down for dozens of turns...

	06-04-2001 13:27									#23
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mongols

but the sioux are annoying- they steal a lot of tech

same with the indians

why are the purple civs a pain in the ass?

	09-04-2001 07:42									#25
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Mongols and Zulus are both pretty agressive, but the Zulus listen to reason sometimes. Mongols attack against overwhelming odds because I won't pay them my entire treasury in tribute. like, what's up their butt?