03-06-2003 14:53									#1
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I don't know what kept me from the demo game scene.

Anyways, it is possible for me to join the current game midstream or do I wait till game #3?


Thank ye

	03-06-2003 15:19									#2
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hi ,

why would it not be possible , ....

welcome aboard

have a nice day

	03-06-2003 16:23									#3
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dexters - does Viking blood not run in your veins? Do you not worship Odin and Thor? Do you not long for warfare and pillage?

Then you, my friend, are most welcome on this team!!!

	03-06-2003 17:45									#4
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dexters - great to have you aboard!

You may notice that things are a little quiet in the forums at the moment (all of them, in fact). This is of course because of the Nth Hemisphere's summer holidays (no idea if it's just the US or Canada, Europe as well). Things will pick up again whenever they end, but until then be prepared to have quite a strong say on our game.

I will go now and add your name to the illustrious list of members for the team, in a topped thread labelled Sign-up thread: Civ3 Democracy Game Number Deux

Any questions on our past or organisation? Have a look around the threads, especially those that are topped - they will give you at least a decent idea of what's happening.

Any specific question, just ask away!

	03-06-2003 19:25									#5
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Welcome aboard, dexters.

	03-06-2003 19:49									#6
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt You may notice that things are a little quiet in the forums at the moment (all of them, in fact). This is of course because of the Nth Hemisphere's summer holidays (no idea if it's just the US or Canada, Europe as well).

Summer holidays? It ain't even summer yet!!

* BigFurryMonster mumbles something about lazy Americans...

	03-06-2003 19:50									#7
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Would I be able to join as well?

	03-06-2003 19:51									#8
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You would have to be checked for Nuclear Radiation, of course.

	03-06-2003 19:53									#9
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You should be checked for fur balls :P

	03-06-2003 19:55									#10
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I have been.

	03-06-2003 19:58									#11
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"Summer hollidays" is currently finals and people getting out of school and heading back home/getting awful drunk at graduation.

Welcome newcomers! Of course ALL are welcome to join in. Sit back and have some fun, but watch out for MrWIA, we're all a bit concerned about him...

Attachment: mrwia.jpg
This has been downloaded 65 time(s).

	03-06-2003 20:06									#12
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Is there any chance for a new comer to get a minister position?

	03-06-2003 20:10									#13
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The elections just ended, so next month when the nomination thread goes up, sign up for one and you have a good shot.

To improve that chance, though, stay active in the mean time, make suggestions, talk to the current ministers, perhaps one needs an assistant, perhaps even write for the *shameless plug* Valhalla Herald */shameless plug*

	03-06-2003 20:12									#14
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That might be a good idea. If anyone has the chance could you tell me about when each minister does?

	03-06-2003 20:18									#15
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The President and Vice President play the game and are in charge of making turnchats guiding the research and adjusting the sliders, but they follow the directions of the ministers for everything else.

Minister of Foreign Affairs handles all trades, deals, and declaring peace, war, and RoP/Alliance etc.

Domestic Minister is in charge of the homeland, producing units, moving workers, settling new cities, etc.

The Supreme Military Commander...well, kills things.

Each can assign assistants and such as they see fit, and all are responsible for polling the public for the major decisions as pertained to their position. Great Leaders and Declaring war and a few other things need approval by the public at large.

	03-06-2003 20:23									#16
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Hi there NukeMaster! You've been in the chatrooms a few times, IIRC. Consider yourself joined.

As for what each Minister does:

President is the one who plays the game on behalf of the whole group, according to the orders that are posted by the Ministers. This requires you to hold turnchats (meaning you are just online in a chatroom at the same time as you are playing), and that you post a report of what happened along with any screenshots from the game, and the savegame where you finish play. You are the head of the Government, so you are responsible for the game as a whole, and for promoting and continuing discussion about the game.

Vice President the right-hand person for the Prez, does what the Prez can't or hasn't the time to do. Usually plays the game the same way as the Prez every now and again. Is responsible for putting up election polls at the right time (end of the month).

Foreign Affairs Minister Gives orders to the Prez on what to do in terms of trading with the AI/war/peace/ROPs/everything to do with the negotiations screen. Should keep everyone aware of the attitudes/states of the various other civs too.

Supreme Military Commander Gives orders to all military or scout units and to the Leaders (but not on how to use the Leaders, only on where to move them to)

Domestic Minister Responsible for giving orders on city builds, what squares the city works, where settlers and workers go and what they do there. Quite a job, and VERY important.

The orders are not given arbitrarily, but are a reesult of discussion in the forum by all who want to contribute and, where necessary, via polls on what option(s) to choose.

Does that help a bit?

EDIT: Cross post! Gaah! That cartoon again.....
EDIT x2: At least the flag is appropriate right now - I'm still stuck in Oz.

	03-06-2003 20:30									#17
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Thank so much. Look forward for me running next term

	03-06-2003 21:21									#18
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt EDIT: Cross post! Gaah! That cartoon again..... EDIT x2: At least the flag is appropriate right now - I'm still stuck in Oz.

That cartoon is never going away, it's my wallpaper!

I almost editted in the right flag, but wanted to get Aro's permission first.

	03-06-2003 22:49									#19
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I love that cartoon. And welcome.

	04-06-2003 06:08									#20
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Thank you for the warm welcome everybody.

I've downloaded the turn 8 save and is currently looking at it.

I few practical questions cropped up

1) I understand playing ahead is considered cheating... but can we move any of the units in the same turn?

2) Can you spend money on the treasury to conduct spy missions?

3) What check is there to prevent members from playing ahead? I would assume there would be a healthy community of people playing their own variants of the demo gamer quietly ?

4) I've read the FAQ but I'm still not too clear how lowly pleabians like myself would be participating in terms of say, decisions on where to settle if there are already good players in ministirial positions advising the president and vp


Thanks

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	04-06-2003 06:41									#21
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quote: Originally posted by dexters Thank you for the warm welcome everybody. I've downloaded the turn 8 save and is currently looking at it. I few practical questions cropped up 1) I understand playing ahead is considered cheating... but can we move any of the units in the same turn? 2) Can you spend money on the treasury to conduct spy missions? 3) What check is there to prevent members from playing ahead? I would assume there would be a healthy community of people playing their own variants of the demo gamer quietly ? 4) I've read the FAQ but I'm still not too clear how lowly pleabians like myself would be participating in terms of say, decisions on where to settle if there are already good players in ministirial positions advising the president and vp Thanks

Welcome dexters, from an ex-Vancouverite!

1) Nope.

2) Nope. The FAM may check for diplomacy deals, but that is it.

3) The Honour system. I haven't heard of anyone playing the DG on their own, aside from after the first one completed and some wanted to try winning a different way.

4) The ministers should be posting their orders for coming chats ahead of time. Then everyone else is encouraged to dissect and comment on them. Also show up at the chats where you can participate in any on-the-fly polls that take place (there's always a couple), and watch for in-chat developments that could affect orders/decisions. It is hard for the ministers to watch everything during a chat, and a good number of things can slip by, only to be noticed by those assessing the final save after the chat is complete.

Lastly, if you're reading a thread and someone has already proposed something you were thinking, or has agreed with a prior point...don't just not comment. Agree as well, adding any supporting information you thought of that hasn't been raised. But let your voice be heard, even if you simply agree with someone. Good orders/decisions can't be made if we don't know what everyone thinks.

	04-06-2003 06:50									#22
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The best way to join in is to come up with ideas, post them, and to comment on others ideas. Like dijon say's, if you agree, say so. If not, say so also (but please be polite and explain). Most positions are looking for assistants to help out, particularly FAM in the chats. Glad to have you.

	04-06-2003 07:00									#23
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Thanks for the tips.

	04-06-2003 08:03									#24
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I agree with all that has been said. In addition, I have to reaffirm that any citizen who turns up to the chats ends up having quite a big effect. Quite often unexpected things will come up, and the Prez/Minister may need to host a "quickpoll" on what to do with all those in the chat. This quickpoll will be based on ideas that those people in the chat come up with too. Even further, during the chat it is likely that you could be asked to help with contacting other civs and checking for deals with them.

In short, during the chats everyone can have a strong say on what happens in the game, and they can be quite fun too. They're not all shop, and you can even maybe get units etc named after you!