05-06-2003 00:39									#1
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My dear friends, I've seen that we, citizens, don't get enough food. They want to keep us a little bit happy by giving high wages. But I want food, no money. We better keep this money for later. We'll need it.
I hope that they build granaries as fast as possible, and that they give us more food, if they don't want a riot (or even a revolt). Do you agree???

I have also other ideas (just search this forum) and I'm going to start my own party after these elections. In the meantime, the president can show his power and solve the problems with the Greeks.

	05-06-2003 08:15									#2
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Trust me and my ministers on this one pacman, lower rations=faster growth=more tiles worked=more gold and production. Once they start complaining alittle we will set the up from 5 to 7.5.

	05-06-2003 22:32									#3
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once they complain, we will higher the rations!!!!!!!

what do you main, wait untill they complain??? good, I'm a citizen and I'm complaining....
the happiness is below normal. And it's a bad politic if you're waiting to do something untill people complain. You have to evade complaining.

we (at the moment, only I) want a happy society, and not a one that wait untill we (I) complain.

I've spoken (again)

	06-06-2003 15:23									#4
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I think Nimrod ment that we will raise rations, when huge masses of people starts to make some anarchy in Atlantis, not when one inchy "noob" starts to mock the president, ministers and their desisions

	06-06-2003 23:36									#5
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NRPG: i thought it was the meaning of the game that there were some discussion, so the game would be more interested

RPG: I still think, we don't have to wait untill the AI citizens complain. better do something now. And a happier city has less crime and grows faster. don't forget that my friend

	07-06-2003 22:01									#6
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Is that not what we are doing, discussing it. If we had more active citizens it would make for better debates.

	07-06-2003 23:19									#7
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Well, let me say this, the population grows a bit faster when the ration's are low, and this makes them even less happy. However, we are war with a very strong Greek civilization, and it is times like thest when the citizens must stop whining for more grub, otherwise they will be destroyed by the evil Greeks. As it is we are over paying them!!

	08-06-2003 01:17									#8
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they are unhappy

so with war, the become more unhappy!!!!!!!!!!

and like I already said, if they are happier, there is less crime, so more gold, food and production. And if they are happier, they city grows faster, I think we just have to set the rations one higher, and make granaries. The Greeks can wait. If we give a map to them (which is not so big now), we are not in war anymore. We can defeat them later, now it's time to set a civilization that grows stronger then them. And than we can defeat the Greeks, but it's stupid to build an army, if he's stronger.

	09-06-2003 03:05									#9
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I say let them eat cake.

	09-06-2003 12:01									#10
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no give that food too the citizens

	09-06-2003 19:10									#11
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How unhappy do they need to be before rioting? Is crime really that big an issue with cities the size they are? If not then the issue seems to be that the people need to be happy enough to avoid riots whilst keeping rations low for growth.

Unless I miss anything, that is.

Well, I HAVE never finished a game of CtP. And I haven't played more than two. And I haven't done so for 4 years.

	09-06-2003 22:51									#12
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Once I figured out that low rations are good my civs always grew better. So keep our citiziens on the diet. And if they are unhappy give them an entertainer.

-Martin

	10-06-2003 03:20									#13
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I always liked the Elvis sitings from civ2

	10-06-2003 08:35									#14
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"Elvis Sitings"

Say it ain't so!!

	10-06-2003 08:37									#15
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maybe I mean sightings

	10-06-2003 08:40									#16
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Even Sightings

	10-06-2003 10:03									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann And if they are unhappy give them an entertainer. -Martin

what!!!!!!!!!! less production and food and gold
you're all crazy

	10-06-2003 16:51									#18
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Yes we are

	10-06-2003 21:13									#19
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oh, sorry my fault, I had to kno that.

and I thaught I was crazy...
(but that's just because I have such boring country.)

	10-06-2003 22:19									#20
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate "Elvis Sitings"

Maybe you could also mean:

"Elvis Settings" or "Elvis Sittings" or "Elvis Sit Ins"

quote: Originally posted by pacman what!!!!!!!!!! less production and food and gold you're all crazy

That only means less production and food and gold in one city and not everywhere.

Well in unmodded CTP2 it always does work. IIRC in CTP1 you have here a little bit more careful. So we gave them something. So if we have to spend too much entertainers, we could think about a global drop of food or science or production.

-Martin

	11-06-2003 09:05									#21
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I think the sliders are set at the perfect levels

	11-06-2003 10:14									#22
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oh my god, you're all conservatives

	11-06-2003 19:01									#23
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quote: Originally posted by pacman oh my god, you're all conservatives

If you think conservatives exploits the workers and squeeze the last thing out of the people for the benifit of the empire, then Yes.

-Martin

	11-06-2003 23:43									#24
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but I just want to make clear that we will make more benifit if we just set thr ration one higher, just one and we'll be a step closer to victory. see this and we'll win.