06-06-2003 01:45									#1
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If we so chose, we could easily tell Vox that our first galley was lost in treacherous waters after an executive decision was made in a desperate attempt to hasten aid to them due to the gravity of the situations.

They won't believe it 100%, and they don't have to. Then we stall when it comes to time estimates for getting the next galley over to them.

Just an option...

	06-06-2003 02:27									#2
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I've already informed them that we sent the first galley up the coast and is 4-4-4-4-1 from Beta by the Sea. Two turns from lading there.

	06-06-2003 02:41									#3
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree I've already informed them that we sent the first galley up the coast and is 4-4-4-4-1 from Beta by the Sea. Two turns from lading there.

This is precisely the kind of thing that has made me think you've "gone native", BigFree. You are far too free with information with Vox.

From the Classified thread:

quote: Originally posted by Togas Classified Information: ANY Military plans we have for how to deal with any nation or situation The number and composition of our military. Where are military units are.

	06-06-2003 03:14									#4
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Well, Senor Maser, it was a good plan...

	06-06-2003 03:34									#5
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Dejon, they did give us their full military deployment... telling them where a galley is pales in comparison.

	06-06-2003 03:44									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Thud Dejon, they did give us their full military deployment... telling them where a galley is pales in comparison.

I see what you're saying, but BetaHound gave us that due to sheer desperation, not because he's looking for quid-pro-quo.

Edicts are Edicts, is all I'm saying.

	06-06-2003 03:46									#7
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True. I agree, in fact. Very true indeed...

But you have to admire that move, even if made our of desperation. What if we were in cahoots with GS? We could have had our troops occupying half of Vox's cities in 5 turns flat!

Edit: We still could

	06-06-2003 03:57									#8
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Let's do it!! Ahahaha! All will fall before the sword and the spear and the iron fist of Spain!

Errr...

	06-06-2003 03:58									#9
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quote: Originally posted by dejon This is precisely the kind of thing that has made me think you've "gone native", BigFree. You are far too free with information with Vox. From the Classified thread:

dejon, we are coordinating Military actions as per order of our King. We expect Vox to give estimates for troop arivals and such, so should they expect the same. We cannot coordinate such things without sharing some information.

I assure you I have not "gone native."

	06-06-2003 04:04									#10
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree dejon, we are coordinating Military actions as per order of our King. We expect Vox to give estimates for troop arivals and such, so should they expect the same. We cannot coordinate such things without sharing some information.

*Bad call*

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	07-06-2003 01:53									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Thud True. I agree, in fact. Very true indeed... But you have to admire that move, even if made our of desperation. What if we were in cahoots with GS? We could have had our troops occupying half of Vox's cities in 5 turns flat! Edit: We still could

Rather wait a bit until Vox's armies are destroyed by a GS army that outnumbers them. Then offer a deal to them, to let them hand all their cities over to us. Eventually we could offer them asylum in Spain.

It's not that bad, living at the other side of the ocean

Señor Diomingo Cian.

	07-06-2003 02:03									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Aidun Rather wait a bit until Vox's armies are destroyed by a GS army that outnumbers them. Then offer a deal to them, to let them hand all their cities over to us. Eventually we could offer them asylum in Spain. It's not that bad, living at the other side of the ocean

That would sure irritate GS if Beta was made the Minister of Information and Propaganda for another team

	07-06-2003 02:17									#13
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We can make a deal with Vox first and then negotiate with GS. Perhaps we give them one city and have peace with them. I see no problem in that. As soon as Vox is dead and we are governing Voxia, there is no need to keep all those cities for ourselves and the Voxians have no right to speak anymore.

I wasn't very serious when I posted this, but the more I think about this, the more I get the idea that it's not a bad solution.

Señor Diomingo Cian.

	07-06-2003 03:49									#14
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Actually, I like the idea. The only problem is the culture in Egypt, which is swiftly growing.

	07-06-2003 05:09									#15
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and very far away from Eygpt

I had proposed the idea in chat with turning on Vox and taking those cities ourselves. That would atleast keep GS from getting them for a time.

[EDIT] We would also get Incense that way, without having to buy it from someone. [/edit]

E_T

	07-06-2003 05:11									#16
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That is an option, though one that Vox would not likely go for, we can ask...

	07-06-2003 22:12									#17
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Yes, by all means, suggest it. Let's just hope the Egyptians don't play their culture game before we can do something with the land (if it works).

	07-06-2003 23:40									#18
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Let's be serious about this.

IF we take Vox's cities, why wouldn't GS just come up and take them from us? GS will feel a greater claim to them than us, and our Voxian cities will be heavily corrupted.

If Vox cannot protect their cities with 40+ immortals what makes us think that a few horsemen and pikes will protect them? GS will easily snatch the cities from us unless someone can come up with a win-win situation. Frankly, I think we need to talk to GS to find out what their GOALS are in this war. Do they want to destroy Voxia or just go back to peace? What would they offer to us if we sided with them?

I'm much more inclided to side with Vox for the reason's I've stated again and again, but I would like to have more options. I think we all would.

--Togas