06-06-2003 05:33									#1
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Whether ground units behind city walls get the defensive bonus vs attacking fighters/bombers?

I've noticed air units do not have ignore city walls flag.

Please assist.

	06-06-2003 06:43									#2
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There's an very useful thread on the Civ2 Strategy forum: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...6&pagenumber=1. Very well researched. In it you can find,

quote: 3.4 City walls triple the defense value of city defenders against attacks by land units only. This bonus can apply only to land units.

	06-06-2003 08:23									#3
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Thanks I thought this was the case but I've had vet KV1's in red front defend againts et Ju88's and in most cases win? at 14 bomber Vs def kv1 9??

	06-06-2003 10:16									#4
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City Walls double against ground units, Coastal Batteries against naval units, and AA Batteries against air units.

	06-06-2003 10:34									#5
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I thought city walls trippled the defence bonush for ground units, that's what it says in the pedia atleast.

	06-06-2003 18:39									#6
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Right.

	06-06-2003 21:29									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Colwyn Thanks I thought this was the case but I've had vet KV1's in red front defend againts et Ju88's and in most cases win? at 14 bomber Vs def kv1 9??

1. KV-1s might have better strength and/or firepower than Ju-88s. If true, this alone would explain everything.

2. The KV-1s might be dug in. This adds 50% to defensive strength, so those Ju-88s would be up against units with an effective defence of 13.5 (fractions are significant).

3. The KV-1s might be on good defensive terrain. Rivers add 50%. Forests add another 50%. This is why I was sorry to see all those southern cities fall in the current multiplayer Red Front game; cities on rivers are bastions!

	10-06-2003 13:48									#8
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The KV-1s might have also been a veteran. That adds 50% to its defense and attack.