06-06-2003 06:17									#1
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I was thinking of our shields in Imperial city, and how we are still going to get Leo's wrokshop....

Here is something we may want to consider...
Again...its not well thought out...I am just tossing it up for discussion.


Let’s contact Vox, and offer the following.

The war does not go well.
We are deeply saddened that it does look like that the might of the GS economy will eventually cause the Voxian empire to fall.

In the event that it occurs, we would like to offer the following.

The GoW & Vox are the two smallest teams
We are both last in score, territory, membership, and almost everything else.
We would like to ask that if the eventual demise of Vox did occur, that you team members join the GoW.
In addition to this, we would like you to consider the following.
Are you interested in pulling off a Luxian manoeuvre. ?

You are 16-17 turns from engineering ???
When you are down to your last defences, we wish to offer to gift you a GoW city.

The following transfers will occur.
Round 1
Vox will gift all of thier workers to GoW.
GoW will gift you a city.

Round 2
Vox will disband its last remaining city and your palace will transfer to BoB
GoW will gift you back your workers.
Vox will join all of the transferred workers into your capital to maximise gold/research production of non-cultural improvements.
Within this city, you can continue to finish your research, repay Lego as much gold as you can, and build…say walls. ?
While in this city, you will fall under GoW protection.

Round ?
When Engineering is finished, you will transfer it to those teams you presold it to.
Use the funds to repay Lego ?
GoW will invade and claim back the city.

Round ?+1
GoW welcomes the Vox team into our forums, and our membership can double from 3 active memebrs to 6

	06-06-2003 07:56									#2
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If we can pull it off, then

If not, (and I think Vox might rather want to chose who they go to), then

	06-06-2003 08:41									#3
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This idea is very good also as it gives Vox the incentive to continue fighting, hopefully until after we get Chivalry and lauch the RP war. Thus GS will still be too distracted to intervene in the conflict.

	06-06-2003 10:05									#4
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If there are no other objections... I will draft something up and send to Beta.

Keep it similar to above, but kinda make it an unofficial suggestion and see his response.

	06-06-2003 10:29									#5
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You have the go H_E

btw, wanna be official Vox ambassador??

	07-06-2003 09:31									#6
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Sounds like it might be a simple job....
Given they wont be around for much longer

	07-06-2003 09:45									#7
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Ok let's see...

Resumé....
Curriculum...
Job experience...
Recommendations...

you got the job

	07-06-2003 19:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel If there are no other objections... I will draft something up and send to Beta. Keep it similar to above, but kinda make it an unofficial suggestion and see his response.

Sure

Keep it as informal as possible so that they might not think that we're counting on them losing.

	08-06-2003 08:58									#9
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Return Message from Vox

quote: H_E. I appreciate the noble and considerate intent behind your offer. We will keep it in mind. But we are farly confident we will survive, one way or the other. We do have another proposal - but we don't think it would fly. And that is to set up a small civ on the NE corner of Bob - yes - the land that was so contentious before. We would like to say - put 4 cities in there. This may even work if we end up holding only part of Estonia north of Elipolis.

I am going tell him it's not going to happen.
Our Bob agreement ensures that there will be no forth Civ on Bob.

I may suggest they talk to RP...they have the most land.
But Preferably, speak to Lego, as they have an entire continent.

Remember...our resoning behind this is to get Engineering, so ensuring their survival for at least 16 turns is all we want.

	08-06-2003 09:34									#10
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plus, Lego can gift them a city which GS won't even see


H_E, tell Beta that if they set up cities in NE bob, then there's still no guarantee GS will jump the channel and take those cities too

	08-06-2003 10:00									#11
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If Vox wants to restart, Lego would be their only hope.

	08-06-2003 18:41									#12
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Message back from Beta

quote: The other variable is war with NeuD. I have heard of tensions between RP and NeuD. If 3 civs declared war on them, NeuD - we would be willing to help out here - then there would be lots of closer land for GoW to use - and we could access the NW corner of Bob, which again, is much more useful to us than you - given its proximity to our capitol.

And my response.
What I tell him will go back to RP, so ..

ND vs RP yes
But RP is safe, because we will attack ND

quote: There is certainly tensions with ND RP have snatched a large portion of Bob for themselves. GoW have had to accept it, as we are so far away. I think ND has different ideas. But RP should be reasonably safe. If one Bob Nation declared war on another...the third one would come to its defence We dont want a single super nation on Bob. Your request to settle on Bob is being discussed, but honestly, I still dont think GoW would accept you as a 4th civ on Bob. Not when Lego has a continent and a half for themselves. Your argument is valid...the NE is closer to your capital than ours. But we are also talking different landmasses. You cannot run an effective civ on two landmasses. You need a large area of land to live in peace...or you will become the whipping boy of every other team in the game. Talk to Lego. We have the latest save, and notice Inchon is still there. Did you attack ? You will need a large enough force to take it in one round. They have Sun Zsu so every defender you hurt..will be fully healed again the next time you attack. Did RP send you their iron ? Are you attacking from the North or the South ? Regarding your previous questions... Our galleys are in Port Isolation. We still have Med Inf on the way. The Med Inf were warrior scouts..we had to bring them back to a city with a barracks, upgrade them, and then send them to Port Isolation. The NE does not have roads and we dont have engineering so we lose steps everytime we cross a river. They are taking a long time to get there. You will need to let us know the best spot for them soon. Note however, we are concerned about the GS galleys, and are not happy about putting our galleys at risk. You need to let us know where they are. Will you take inchon ? Do we land north or south of Elipolis ? Also...I guess while I am asking questions Did you check with Lego about relocating there ? They have twice as much land than you and GS put together...although they are desperating trying to keep this a secret. Regs

	14-06-2003 13:59									#13
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I am going to offer this to Vox again.

I will tell them it still has to be ratified by the team, so we can always decline later.

All we need from them is engineering, and unless GS can give it for free, we might as well get it from Vox