07-06-2003 03:10									#1
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There has been much debate as to if, and if so, what SP to build. Here is a poll to decide. The debate was located here.

Please vote once for whether we should build one, and again for which SP to build. To get one, we must go all out IMHO, as others will also be trying.

You have 3 days.

	07-06-2003 03:57									#2
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Being democratic and planned, and building CCs is the easy way of pop-booming, at least for factions which don't have a growth penalty. But we do. So besides those three conditions, we also need to have Golden Ages. And with planned, those are quite hard to get. Also there is the disadvantage that any psych point beyond 2 times the base size are ignored. For example if the base size is 6, only 12 psych points have an effect, even if you would produce 20 of them. This fact makes it impossible to popboom if we would have B-drones ("very unhappy citizens" created by expansion etcetera), as than we would be unable to create enough talents to make half of our base talented. The only way to get enough talents anyway in the early/mid-game is by building the HGP.

So the choice is the following when determining what SP to aim for: Do we choose for faster terraforming and the inability to popboom, or do we choose for popbooming but normal terraforming speed?
If we don't build the WP, we will have equal terraforming speed as five other factions. Only one faction will have an advantage over us. But if we don't build the HGP, we will face no less than three human factions (not the Pirates, but they have faster growth due to kelp farms) that have the ability to popboom, contrary to us. Anyone familiar with popbooming knows that it can triple your production, economy and labs in a matter of years. The WP's effects are also big, but not thàt big. So when faced with the choice between an advantage we have over the other factions, or a *crucial* advantage we don't have, but all the other humans do, then the choice is simple for me. If we didn't have the growth penalty, I'd gladly vote for the WP. But since we're playing the CyCon, HGP is the way to go IMO.

Last edited by Maniac on 08-06-2003 at 03:41

	07-06-2003 05:02									#3
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I'll vote for Weather Paradigm, but if we fail, we can switch production (ouch) to either the HGP or the Virtual World. If we think we can get it, go for the HGP. Otherwise we can go for the Virtual World and really damage the PUT

	07-06-2003 06:46									#4
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maniac makes a good argument. HGP, but if we fail, then VW.

	07-06-2003 23:05									#5
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Well, it looks like HGP.