07-06-2003 11:28									#1
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Metallica's new album sucks and blows at the same time.

OK I told myself I'd try to refrain from using such stupid slang insults. Those words show a lack of vocabulary. Let's just say Metallica's new songs are horrible.

OK so I've only heard 2 on the radio so far. And while the songs might be pretty cool if another band had released them, I admit I hold Metallica to a higher standard.

All I can say is it was a mistake recording an album without a bass player. Their producer Bob Rock laid down the bass tracks. There's a reason why he's a producer and not a bass player.

I'm not even sure I will buy this album. It's not often I don't buy a new Metallica album the first few days it came out.

It has been released early. does anyone have it? Any good songs?

Anyways here's what I got so far from 2 songs. Extreme lack of bass sound. There is bass guitar, I can hear it, but it lacks loudness and even more importantly skill and intensity. The guitar parts are pretty good. I have no complaints about their change of style- provided it could be backed up with strong bass guitar. The drums are kind of light for my tastes. I'm not sure I like the drum set he's using, or perhaps it was the sound quality of the recording. The lyrics are OK, but also lack intensity.

Last edited by Dis on 07-06-2003 at 11:33

	07-06-2003 11:30									#2
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Dissident, so what you're saing is ... that old Metallica rocked? That's just wrong.

	07-06-2003 11:33									#3
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S&M is the only good Metallica album.

	07-06-2003 11:35									#4
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blech! S&M had a few good songs, the other songs had some good bits and pieces. Actually the first CD of S&M is listenable. It kind of falls apart on the second CD.

But perhaps that was too ambitious for Metallica.

You should listen to the Scorpions Crossfire instrumental with the Berlin Philharmonic. The original had lyrics, but this is just an instrumental. I like it.

	07-06-2003 11:36									#5
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DIss, have you checked out Apocalyptica? They're FInnish band, playing Metallica songs with.. I don't know what they are called, those big violin looking things that are actually bass.. you might like it.

	07-06-2003 11:37									#6
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The S&M Enter Sandman is amazing.

	07-06-2003 11:41									#7
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The only good song Metallica ever made was 'dirty in the morning'.... nice drums, good singing and lyrics. Otherwise I don't like Metallica.

	07-06-2003 11:55									#8
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yeah I have some Apocaplyptica on my hard drive. They pretty cool, at least the songs I have on my hard drive are cool.

	07-06-2003 11:56									#9
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dirty in the morning? I'm not familiar with that song.

	07-06-2003 11:59									#10
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I don't like Apocalyptica, but I figured if someone liked Metallica, they might like them too, since they play their songs. They are so original .

Dirty In The Morning? Oh they played that in Cancun, Spring Break like few years ago.. They haven't released it on any album or single though.

	07-06-2003 13:42									#11
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I'M MADLY IN ANGER WITH YOU

That lyric just about sums things up, I do believe.

	08-06-2003 12:04									#12
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	08-06-2003 16:54									#13
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DIss, Ok since you bumped this thread I just might confess that there is no such Metallica song, and I bet they never even played in Spring Breaks or what ever.
Sorry.

	08-06-2003 17:40									#14
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'Enter Sandman' is a classic, and I love that Apocalyptica stuff!
However, Metallica sucks..

	08-06-2003 19:05									#15
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is it just me, or are the vocals and drums just too goddam loud? that high, ringing snare really doesn't suit lars's playing at all. the bass sound does lack a certain pinache, which i hope would have been re-recorded when Rocky started with them. apparently not.

although, i smile to think that jason newstead left metallica, is playing with VoiVod now, but is taking a break to go play with Ozzy while Rocky is off with the Hetfeild/Ulrich Experience.

	08-06-2003 19:42									#16
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	09-06-2003 04:41									#17
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I agree.

The singing is quite bad. Out of tune even for James which makes out-of-tune an art form.

The drums are lousy, and the general mixing and mastering is quite bad. The recording sounds all too... amateurish.

The bass isn't very good. It's there but not there.

	09-06-2003 04:43									#18
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I see there's improvement there

You haven't got rid of that Faboba style though

	09-06-2003 04:46									#19
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Metallica? Don't they sue their fans?

	09-06-2003 05:03									#20
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Haven't heard any of the new songs...are they very different from the songs on Load and Reload?

	09-06-2003 08:21									#21
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I wouldn't say very different, but they are different.

I'm not sure if they wanted to record it so crappy to make it seem more "real" and "raw" or they just were just stupid. I don't listen to Metallica for that sort of sound. I'd listen to Nirvana, or some punk band for that.

	09-06-2003 20:48									#22
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those new songs were quite boring on live show

	18-06-2003 07:48									#23
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well I went ahead and bought the album. Hey, I'm a diehard Metallica fan- I knew it was going to happen sooner or later.

what the kicker was for me was the fact they proved a DVD, and they provide a link to the Metallica Vault where you can download almost 100 hours (or is it minutes?) of music (mostly live from what I can tell).

In any case, when played in my pickup with my amplified boosted truck speakers behind the seats the bass does sound halfway decent. I still don't like the sound quality that much. I'm not sure if they intended on that sound. Maybe they wanted it to sound more raw. And I'm beginning to think the problem isn't the bass guitar, but the drums. Sometimes the drums sound like they are coming from a tin can.

I will still write Metallica an e-mail and ask them to rerecord the album with Rob Trujillo at bass .

	18-06-2003 08:26									#24
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anyways, even though I felt like the sound quality could be better, I am happy this is a heavy album. Not as heavy as their old stuff, but definately better than crap on Reload and that I Disappear song.

	18-06-2003 08:30									#25
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The album is missing long guitar solos. And the individual songs are also missing a certain distinctiveness. It's good, but not as good as previous albums. You get used to the odd sound quality eventually.

	18-06-2003 10:14									#26
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They've always been crap.