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dojoboy is offline dojoboy
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I must say, this is an incredible game. It is listed as a RTS; however, its not a traditional type RTS, well, like AoE2.

Rather than building individual units and grouping them, one purchases x amount of infantry, cavalry, and cannons. As land tech increases, these forces improve. Concerning naval forces, one chooses between warships, galleys, and transports.

There are several campaigns to choose, ranging from the American Dream (Independence) to the Grand Campaign (choosing one of 90+ playable countries) where one manuevers through 400+ years, dealing w/ historical events.

Being able to choose whether you want a decentralized gov't or centralized gov't, and dealing w/ religious tolerance issues in Europe from the 1400s to the 1800s are only two of the many decision-making opportunities in the game. If you're in to warmongering only, the game could be frustrating. Its not like warring in AoE2. Now, I'm a newb at the game, so I may not do a description justice. I can say its a fun and intersting game, very emersive (If that is even a word, I think it is.)

Oh, the game shipped w/ a "load-save crash bug." But, a quick patch by VP fixed the problem. I've had zero crashes since the patch, and no hitches w/ the software during game-play. I'm on an old tray-loading iMac w/ a G3/333 and 512MB RAM, using 10.2.6 OS.

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hi ,

welcome to the club , btw

this is great news


have a nice mac day

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EU2 for the Mac is at a great price through Amazon.com, only $21.99. Great price for a Mac game, and a damn good at that.

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I've been waiting for this game since it was released (being as it is my favourite historical period and all) and I was waiting for it's predecesor as well (that port was never finnished ). When this was ready I ordered it right away. That was more than one month ago. However the company I ordered from still hasn't gotten it to me

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I play it on my bro's PC.

CivPatriot is offline CivPatriot
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just bought it from compUSA for 29.99, haven't had much time to play with work, but my intial impression is that this looks like the game i've been wanting for a while. i hope that it will be.

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just bought it from compUSA for 29.99, haven't had much time to play with work, but my intial impression is that this looks like the game i've been wanting for a while. i hope that it will be.


I think you'll like it. I've had it for 2 weeks now, working on my first GC (Grand Campaign) as Castile/Spain. I'm definitely a rookie, as my inflation is out the roof. Fortunately, I was wise enough to play my first game on the "Very Easy" level. I don't get to sit and play very long either, maybe an hour here and there.

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I don't get to sit and play very long either, maybe an hour here and there.


i understand the time problem, hopefully i'll have time this weekend to play it.

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This game is sweet. wish civ3 whould have been like this.

I'm learning my way through the game(the school of hard knocks) and i like this game, one of the few games(strategy wise) that is a challenge to play even at its lowest level(can't fathom this game at top difficulty). What's even more surprising is that though its a challange i do not feel like i'm getting my head handed to me at every turn. this is definatly a buy game!!

Henrik is offline Henrik
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Having finally gotten my copy (! ) I must say I agree. I love this game, I'm playing my first long game now with France in the GC

I still won't pretend I know everything even in the slightest (for instance I rarely if ever use the archive/ledger), but I am doing ok

Hey anyone up for some mac MP in the future?

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Looks like one I'll have to seriously consider...

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Hey anyone up for some mac MP in the future?


Sunday (June 29) at 8 pm EST (US) on Valkyrie.net - EU2 Channel. Look for me, muzein, Rubel, Blublub, and possibly Sternum.

Agathon is offline Agathon
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OK - read this, was intrigued, so walked a block to the mac store and bought it.

Mind bogglingly hard to start off with. I'm playing England in the Grand Campaign.

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Sunday (June 29) at 8 pm EST (US) on Valkyrie.net - EU2 Channel. Look for me, muzein, Rubel, Blublub, and possibly Sternum.


That'd be 2 Am for me

Is there no chance for a game during the morning or afternoon EST?

I'm on CET (central european time, ie EST+6).

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So, this is a RTS right?

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That'd be 2 Am for me

Is there no chance for a game during the morning or afternoon EST?

I'm on CET (central european time, ie EST+6).


Well, our attempt was met w/ a few crashes and a a hang-up that kept us from playing once everyone hit start. Valkyie.net was down, so Muzein hosted. Henrik, I'm up for trying this week. I can host or maybe Valkryie.net will be back up. During the week days, I can probably play between 12 pm - 3 pm EST. Im a school teacher and out for the summer. My son usually naps during these hours. Weekends, I can try earlier but would have to schedule it, family and all you know.

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So, this is a RTS right?


Yes, but the rate of time passage can be changed to suit your play style(or like me fast during slow periods, slow during wars and such). its one of the few RTS games that doesn't feel like an RTS, more like Civ than anything else.

What i like about this game is that it has a grand scope. I'm currently playing Austria in the Grand Campaign(my first game) and i love how i feel apart of the times, from the country dependant special events to the plain random events( that truly effect your nation both in the short and long term). For the first time since i played Civ2 and Col, i have a game that is engrossing, and gives me that one more time feeling. I really believe that this is what Civ3 should have been, i've seen in this alot of ideas that i hope are implemented in Civ4(stability is one major one). I really am interested in RON now more than ever after playing this game. I also think that Civ3 may lose out to this game more and more becuase of EU2's far greater value and depth(captures the wonder of Civ2).

Agathon, keep in there its taken me a good bit of time to understand the game, it does have a good manual, but this is one of those games you have to learn by playing, its worth it(i am learning the game and having fun at the same time).

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Well, our attempt was met w/ a few crashes and a a hang-up that kept us from playing once everyone hit start. Valkyie.net was down, so Muzein hosted. Henrik, I'm up for trying this week. I can host or maybe Valkryie.net will be back up. During the week days, I can probably play between 12 pm - 3 pm EST. Im a school teacher and out for the summer. My son usually naps during these hours. Weekends, I can try earlier but would have to schedule it, family and all you know.


Valkryie net is up now it seems, what day would you like to play?

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Valkryie net is up now it seems, what day would you like to play?


Muzein and I are planning to meet at Vnet tomorrow (Wednesday - 7 July) around 12:30 pm. Meet us there if you can. Also, I'll probably be around vnet tonight around 11 pm EST (US). You want to wake up early?

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11 pm might be a little early (5 in the morning over here ). I'll try to get online 12:30 (which would be 6.30 in the morning, still a little early but I'll try).

Hmmm or did I get that wrong? I am somewhat unused to the AM/PM thing. As we use the european system in Sweden (where 01:00 would be one in the morning and 13:00 would be one in the afternoon).

Technically I should have no trouble getting up early as I'm on my summer break from school right now, in practice I still find it hard (if not harder) to get up early in the mornings though

Henrik

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11 pm might be a little early (5 in the morning over here ). I'll try to get online 12:30 (which would be 6.30 in the morning, still a little early but I'll try).

Hmmm or did I get that wrong? I am somewhat unused to the AM/PM thing. As we use the european system in Sweden (where 01:00 would be one in the morning and 13:00 would be one in the afternoon).

Technically I should have no trouble getting up early as I'm on my summer break from school right now, in practice I still find it hard (if not harder) to get up early in the mornings though

Henrik


then its 12:30 - 1300 on Wednesday (2 July).

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Well that puts things in an entirely different light

I'll be around for sure then 18:30-19.00 is not a difficult time

Sorry about the confusion

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Mac EU2 patch 1.0.2 released, but hold off. A "panic-bug" was introduced and is currently being fixed in an update. This bug really doea make the game unplayable w/ troops. Basically, both sides enter pitched battles at the panic level, which leads to the attacking army's defeat and withdrawal. I had a 65k stroing French force defeated by Savoy's 14k size army. The 1.0.2 patch does have a lot of good fixes all in all, but you'll want to wait. The fix will be out sooner than later.

1.0.2 @ Macgamefiles


1.0.2 @ VP

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Pause is now '/' key as well as the Pause (F15) key


Does this mean ctrl+s doesn't do this anymore?

Also it seems the old version didn't really work as it should in MP (or atleast I managed to get it to crashed in the Vnet loby). Is that better now?

I will wait for a fix for the panic bug before downloading this thing...

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Thanks for the heads up. When I get good at this I'll give someone a game.

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The panic bug has now been fixed as of version 1.022.

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Excellent. Thanks. Nice new OS X icon too.

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then its 12:30 - 1300 on Wednesday (2 July).



Seems I was wrong about making it to that date and time sorry.
Still I'd love to try again, are you up for it?
Any day should work for me as long as I know in advance...

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This game sounds good.

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