09-06-2003 20:57									#1
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	09-06-2003 21:10									#2
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	10-06-2003 02:43									#3
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that image is old as the bush doctrine. it has a beard. out of age that is.

	10-06-2003 02:46									#4
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What makes this worse is the PNAC . All the best laid plans o' mice and men.....

	10-06-2003 04:01									#5
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I'm always baffled that pro-war people seem not to care a bit about how Bush usage of the Americ-blessing God is similar to OBL's usage of Jihad-leading God.

To prove how better it is than Islamists, America would be well advised to drop all references to God in its warlike propaganda. Just my two cents.

	10-06-2003 04:03									#6
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I wonder whose side God is really on...

	10-06-2003 04:06									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I wonder whose side God is really on...

He's the arms dealer. Supplying us all with the hatred and bigotry.

	10-06-2003 04:07									#8
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its the 5th crusade.

	10-06-2003 04:19									#9
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If the book is anything like the inside cover which Paiktis posted then it is truly a worthless piece of drivel. Empire my ass.

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	10-06-2003 04:51									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I wonder whose side God is really on...

You mean on the banknotes ... It is on the face, the reverse is secular.

	10-06-2003 05:10									#11
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	10-06-2003 05:46									#12
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I was just about to buy this book the other day, but it was priced at 20Euro, which seemed too much at the time. I preferred to buy a title which has been proven much more controversial than this one and which, being written a few decades ago, came at a more sensible price:

"The managerial revolution", by James Burnham

When my unread book stack gets empty (by the end of summer I assume), I may consider buying this one, if I'm too bored to read one of the Jeremy Rifkin books.

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quote: that pro-war people seem not to care a bit about how Bush usage of the Americ-blessing God is similar to OBL's usage of Jihad-leading God.

Really I never noticed.

Actually, there are some Christians who do not like the terminology, since we don't see God supporting this war.

My church is one of them, and so am I.

quote: its the 5th crusade.

Little late for that. 5th crusade, http://www.medievalchurch.org.uk/cr_5.html

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But Axi don't youlike discovering something that is not yet made femous?

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quote: Originally posted by axi I was just about to buy this book the other day, but it was priced at 20Euro, which seemed too much at the time. I preferred to buy a title which has been proven much more controversial than this one and which, being written a few decades ago, came at a more sensible price:

Tariq Ali is generally a really good writer.

	10-06-2003 18:36									#16
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Not impressed. Potentially more interested in Rogue Nation.

	10-06-2003 18:41									#17
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If you're not interested then it must be good.

	10-06-2003 18:43									#18
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 If you're not interested then it must be good.

It's not anything I haven't seen in other books before. You just like it because of the cute cover photo.

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quote: Tariq Ali is generally a really good writer.

I do not doubt that, but I have a real fancy about obscure books that are out of fashion (I don't know anyone having heard of Burnham except myself).

Btw, Burnham was a member of the American SWP, until 1939. Was that the official Trotskyist Party of the time? Any connections with the modern SWP in Britain?

	11-06-2003 05:31									#20
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quote: I'm always baffled that pro-war people seem not to care a bit about how Bush usage of the Americ-blessing God is similar to OBL's usage of Jihad-leading God. To prove how better it is than Islamists, America would be well advised to drop all references to God in its warlike propaganda. Just my two cents.

True!

From this side of the pond it is very weird to hear all the references to God Bush makes. If he would truly believe half of that he would be a really crazy fundy. Good thing it is about oil really

	11-06-2003 16:50									#21
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For God and oil!

	11-06-2003 17:36									#22
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 For God and oil!

I am made in his image, sweet, light and crude.