20-03-2001 18:17									#1
	Do you play with the map grid on? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Well, I do. It's the only way I can be sure to move my units the way I intended to. It takes a little away from the illusuion of moving through real terrain, but after a while, you hardly notice it. Anyway, this works for me. I also like to have the game run at the medium zoom in-rate, that is Shift-Z. Occasionally, I'll switch to the medium zoom out-rate, Shift-X - mainly when I have to move ships over relatively long distances.

What are your preferences? Grid on or off, and what kind of zoom?

	20-03-2001 18:23									#2
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I play with the grid on. I've tried with it off, and it just doesn't feel right. But considering I'm an old board gamer...

As far as the Zoom goes, I play on the default setting, because that's what I'm used to.

	20-03-2001 18:29									#3
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I used to, when I first started playing, but I prefer to play without it now.

	20-03-2001 18:40									#4
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Grid on, always. I'd be lost without it. I even like the highlighted city radius that so offends some purists, since it helps me in laying out my cities. I nearly always play on the standard zoom (shift-z), since that setting looks the best to me. I zoom out sometimes late in the game when I get tired of the screen recentering constantly.

Edited to change "zoom in" to "zoom out" in the last sentence.
[This message has been edited by DaveV (edited March 20, 2001).]

	20-03-2001 18:59									#5
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Grid off, always. I find the grid very aestethically unpleasant. Once you're used to it, the mistakes in unit moving are practically nil. Zoom at default too.

	20-03-2001 19:09									#6
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Grid off. Except when planning cities or moving triremes.
Zoom: one or two levels below default.(zoomed in) Also, as the game progresses I tend to zoom out.

	20-03-2001 20:21									#8
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Grid on, but not the white city grid. That just looks ugly. Standard zoom, because that's what I'm used to. When I play a comparison game that was started by someone else the first thing I do is change all the options to my own preferences.

	20-03-2001 21:22									#9
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Grid always off, because the white lines mess the map up.

Paul, how do you turn them off in MP? I downloaded a file for Civ 2 that took care of it, but haven't found one for MP.

Zoom is one level in (I think) for sharper looking graphics.

Carolus

	20-03-2001 21:41									#10
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The grid is always off, just for aesthetic reasons. I don't find it at all difficult to lay out cities properly or move units. You get used to it not being there, and it looks better.

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	20-03-2001 21:57									#11
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Grid always on, otherwise the salvage companies become too rich on my triremes. I zoom in and out frequently.
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	21-03-2001 00:12									#12
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I usually play with the grid on - medium zoom.

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	21-03-2001 00:16									#13
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Winston, et al.:

I play with the map grid off, except when placing cities. Then it's on to make sure I get the maximum specials possible within the city's radius.

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	21-03-2001 00:21									#14
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I play with the grid on - mainly because of my cities. I want to make sure they are close enough to be connected but not overlapping each other...and the best way for this is to have the grid turned on.
Concerning the zoom level, I leave it at its default setting since I'm use to it that way

	21-03-2001 00:31									#15
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I find the grid essential to my play...if one miscalculates a target location, vital units could be lost (tiremes, besieging stacks, etc). I especially like it for "plotting" the course of my longer sea voyages.
It's never occured to me to use other than the default zoom...I must try it.
I was puzzled by the reference to cities...I wasn't aware that (in Civ2 anyway)there was an alternative way that they could be shown? And while we're on the subject of grids, can anyone tell me how/if I can show the co-ordinates on my playing map (Civ2)? I've tried DrFell's suggestion of clicking on the right-hand map, but no joy...yet on my map-editor the co-ordinates are plainly to be seen.

	21-03-2001 00:50									#16
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I used to always have it on until I got my 19" monitor. With the new monitor the diaginal lines look very jagged and look like sh!t. so I only turn them on to verify my city grid before building a new city.

	21-03-2001 13:31									#19
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Grid off - you soon get used to it and the aesthetics arem greater - but SG(2) prefers it on - see above -- so when we play together it goes on...

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	21-03-2001 20:28									#20
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i prefer the grid on too.... normal settings for the zoom..... i guess whatever the default is. I played with it off for awhile and almost went stark raving mad. I noticed my military advisor complained of heavy losses and the city coordinator crying foul with poorly laid cities

	21-03-2001 21:12									#21
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Thanks, DaveV -will try this

	21-03-2001 21:34									#22
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Map grid on, always! I prefer the default zoom level becuase of the unit clarity but sometimes late in the game on a large map I will zoom out a couple of levels to make moving units easier.

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	22-03-2001 00:27									#23
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I use it off, with the standard zoom level (at a 1024*768 screen resolution) and only use the grid to fit cities as perfectly as possible

	22-03-2001 08:23									#24
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Always on in the early game, when knowing the exact content of each and every square is so critical; off otherwise for aesthetic reasons, unless doing some serious city planning...

Standard zoom is typical, but changed as needed.

	23-03-2001 20:54									#25
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Grid off (reason: aesthetics), unless I need to take a look in a new city location or to control some trirremes.
Standard zoom (Shift+z).

	24-03-2001 07:12									#26
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Grid always on. I made the mistake of not switching it off and learning to play without it and now it's too late. The terrain looks so much better without tho. Oh, well

I play one «zoom» closer than the regular because for some reason the untis feel more «real» to me like that. As the game advances I zoom in and out according to the needs of quick orientatio.

	24-03-2001 10:37									#27
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Hello, paiktis22!

Try again! If you like realism, than your games are going to be more realistic without that grid annoying the landscape view...
My very first games were with the grid. But I felt that I was missing something with that grid polluting my view... So I turned it off!
I became a little confused on the beggining, but it is worth the effort!


Thanks for your time!

	25-03-2001 12:16									#28
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Always grid on, standard zoom.

	25-03-2001 15:39									#29
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Off, except for city placement or if I'm sending a bomber over a distance.
Zoom 1 or 2 out.

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	26-03-2001 09:21									#30
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Always off... otherwise is ugly. I don't feel surprised that Jay Bee felt the same... I guess that all scenario creators/players turn off the grid... I even create my maps with the grid off...