10-06-2003 19:27									#1
	OFFICAL - Todecide once and for all on the time limit for playing turns (part2) Support Apolyton

This is part two of FOUR polls to finally settle DEMOCRATICALLY and FAIRLY the problems caused by late and persistently late playing of turns.

This poll (part2) is to determine at what point after the time limit, to be decided in part1, the "Penalty" should be applied.

The winner needs a clear 50% majority, or there will be a run-off between the TWO (or more only in the case of an exact tie) most popular options. The poll will run for 3 days as per the old constitution. When this is settled, the decision requires a 2/3rds majority to change, as per the old constitution. Hopefully these 4 polls will be the final word on the subject.

Options are :

• Never apply a penalty, just warn the team that they are over the limit.
  
• Apply the penalty as soon as the team is over the time limit.
  
• Warn the team when they pass the limit and apply the penalty 4 hours later.
  
• Warn the team when they pass the limit and apply the penalty 6 hours later.
  
• Warn the team when they pass the limit and apply the penalty 8 hours later.
  
• Warn the team when they pass the limit and apply the penalty 12 hours later.
  
• Warn the team when they pass the limit and apply the penalty more than 12 hours later.
  
• Write-in
  
• Xenobanana
  

	10-06-2003 19:55									#2
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Apply the penalty as soon as the team is over the time limit of course! Isn't that kind of the meaning of a time limit?!?: "You have to play the turn in that time period or else..."

	10-06-2003 20:24									#3
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THIS POLL IS NOT OFFICIAL

No way can we have planet-wide elections like this on the basis of one vote per person when the faction sizes are so disparate.

	10-06-2003 20:39									#4
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There is no block voting. Googlie can confirm that in no faction's private forum that people are bing instructed to vote the party line. There is no party line.

One vote - one person. That's DEMOCRACY. This poll is official enough.

If you don't like it, may I introduce you to the Xenobanana option. If more than 50% of people agree with you, we'll see. I doubt it, somehow.

-Jam

	10-06-2003 20:40									#5
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Please see my proposal in poll part three.

	10-06-2003 20:45									#6
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Your proposal will be noted. It will be up to GooglieGod to apply any "penalties" as he sees fit. If he wants to give a faction an exemption because he feels they have a good reason, then he CAN DO SO. Don't worry.

-Jam

	11-06-2003 00:54									#7
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OMG, these polls are ****ing annoying.

Now going to poll three to read HongHu's proposal...

	11-06-2003 01:13									#8
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I vote for 48 hours then apply the penalty. If they can't play it in that extended time frame then shame on them.

	11-06-2003 03:22									#9
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24 hours for me, IMO it seems to be enough time to get the turn done. Take a page from the Hive book, even if the team leader cannot be present you can appoint someone to do the turns in their absence.

	11-06-2003 03:26									#10
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Isn't 24 hours a bit harsh if you want to consult at all ?? Also, the Hive has a lot more folks so its easier for them to have alternates ( kinda making my point on factions being in a different position on this issue)

	11-06-2003 03:46									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Isn't 24 hours a bit harsh if you want to consult at all ?? Also, the Hive has a lot more folks so its easier for them to have alternates ( kinda making my point on factions being in a different position on this issue)

In a word, no. The Hive has 20 members, everyone else (except the Drones) have 11. That's more then enough people to find alternatives.

	11-06-2003 13:19									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Voltaire In a word, no. The Hive has 20 members, everyone else (except the Drones) have 11. That's more then enough people to find alternatives.

Since we're still in the early game, we haven't reached a point where consultation is necessary. It will be different later when we begin interacting between the factions. 24 hrs may not be enough for that.

	11-06-2003 17:13									#13
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We need consultation. If the Hive feels differently then that is fine, as they do not run democracy. We prefer to talk about and poll our actions. That takes time.

	11-06-2003 17:30									#14
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What's a tode, and how do you kill one?

	11-06-2003 18:37									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Mongoose What's a tode, and how do you kill one?

Should we make it a poll?

	11-06-2003 19:52									#16
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How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator?

	11-06-2003 20:52									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Mongoose What's a tode, and how do you kill one?

Its related to froggicide

-Jam

	11-06-2003 22:27									#18
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24 hours is too short, but everyone will make a concerted effort to finish as soon a possible.

	12-06-2003 23:58									#19
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu How do you put an elephant into a refrigerator?

Step 1. Open the refrigerator door.
Step 2. Put the elephant in it.
Step 3. Close the refrigerator door.

Sorry to post such nonsense especially when I'm already a prince. But here is a new question:

It's the lion king's birthday. All animals in the forest has come but one. Who hasn't shown up?

	13-06-2003 00:48									#20
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Comrade HongHu


-Jam

	13-06-2003 01:49									#21
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Use your head please Comrade Jam. Sigh! It's so hard to get them think something outside of those d**n polls.

	13-06-2003 01:52									#22
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* Jamski uses his head

Nope, still no idea. Is it a joke answer, or a puzzle answer?

-Jam

	13-06-2003 02:01									#23
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Hint: Look at the last question.

	13-06-2003 02:02									#24
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quote: Originally posted by HongHu It's the lion king's birthday. All animals in the forest has come but one. Who hasn't shown up?

Obviously the Elephant, as he's locked in the refrigerator

G.

	13-06-2003 02:04									#25
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* Jamski groans....

Is that right? Oh GOD that's a bad joke. I'm going to tell it to Mrs Jamski right now, wait a moment......














....She didn't get it Oh well.

-Jam

	13-06-2003 02:21									#26
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THose are really old kid jokes. I had a 6 year old tell me the whole sequence once. There was a couple of other jokes with other animals invoved between those two given here.

	13-06-2003 02:28									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Obviously the Elephant, as he's locked in the refrigerator G.

A god is a god. Who can beat that?

	13-06-2003 02:32									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber THose are really old kid jokes. I had a 6 year old tell me the whole sequence once. There was a couple of other jokes with other animals invoved between those two given here.

We don't need these childish stuff to interfere with our serious polls business don't we, Captain.

	13-06-2003 02:43									#29
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I am sure somebody mentioned it but since when is thsi poll Official

	13-06-2003 02:46									#30
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Since me and Drogue said so.

-Jam