10-06-2003 21:01									#1
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Well I wanted to see how others manage to rip the money of the ai. In my current game I manage to make a monopoly on wines simply because there were all in one place . I'm selling to everyone that can afford my prices. For example i'm curently selling to the Ottomans for 97GP has anyone made more by a luxory?



He it's kind a fun to see how the AI can;t evolve since all it's money is given to buy ressources from me.

	10-06-2003 22:28									#2
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What I do to rip off the AI is sell them resources that don't matter anymore. I'll be in the late industrial after iron and saltpeter are of any use and I'll sell them to the AI and they'll pay a lot for it. This might have been fixed in a patch or PTW though.

I can never get anything out of trades. I think it's because I usually make 1 or 2 wars of conquest at the beginning of the game.

	10-06-2003 23:11									#3
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once shaka asked if he should pay me his oldest son

cheers

	11-06-2003 02:45									#4
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When initiating a trade, I think the most I have ever gotten was 19 GPT. But I had a recent game where the AI asked to buy my goods, and they offered more than that, up to 32 GPT as I recall. But I've not had excessive offers of money in cash, most of the better deals have been on credit (GPT).

I would consider the best deals as you are about to destroy a Civ, and they give you a city, all their gold (which usually isn't much at that point) and also a tech that you have by-passed.

I usually don't worry too much about getting a world map in a trade. I know that some civ will offer it in a peace treaty sooner or later. That too is a lucrative deal, because I usually re-negotiate deals the AI offers. If I don't like their offer, I usually get some gold by selling them my world map. 5 gold for a world map adds up when you get it every 2 to 4 turns!

(P.S. to johncmcleod: In the Bible, Psalm 147:4 says: "He (God) determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name.")

Last edited by Quasar1011 on 11-06-2003 at 02:52

	11-06-2003 03:54									#5
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in one game when i was the only superpower, the zulu and ottomans would've paid 400 per turn for a MPP and ROP. this was on a huge map.

	11-06-2003 05:37									#6
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In the game I had just finished, my only scientific rivals, the Greeks were being annoying as they discovered computers before me (they even managed to get SETI before me ! )

I ruined them completely by selling them environmentalism for ~1500 gold lump and ~470 gpt. After that, they didn't make a dime a turn, and I could continue on my way to scientific domination

	11-06-2003 15:58									#7
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hey i was talking GPT too not cash 97GPT sorry

	11-06-2003 16:05									#8
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quote: Originally posted by johncmcleod What I do to rip off the AI is sell them resources that don't matter anymore. I'll be in the late industrial after iron and saltpeter are of any use and I'll sell them to the AI and they'll pay a lot for it. This might have been fixed in a patch or PTW though.

Iron is extremely importand through the whole game.

You need it to build railroads.

cheers

	11-06-2003 16:24									#9
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The greatest deal I ever achieved was with the Babylonians. I sold them ecology for 500gpt and something else.

	11-06-2003 17:50									#10
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I figure if they have that kinda money I haven't been kicking enough butt throughout the game so I must step up my crushing of their little heads...

(HAH - I wasn't like this before reading this forum you know...)

	11-06-2003 18:51									#11
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quote: Originally posted by BulMaster Well I wanted to see how others manage to rip the money of the ai. In my current game I manage to make a monopoly on wines simply because there were all in one place . I'm selling to everyone that can afford my prices. For example i'm curently selling to the Ottomans for 97GP has anyone made more by a luxory? He it's kind a fun to see how the AI can;t evolve since all it's money is given to buy ressources from me.

hi ,

3000 plus gpt from the indians to get uranium in the year 1990 , .....

but what does the ai do , at turn 19 he has no more money , the indians started to sell off buildings , ......

have a nice day

	12-06-2003 15:59									#12
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well the ai can be stupid some time

	17-06-2003 16:32									#13
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I have achieved my biggest deal yesterday: 503gpt from France for Atomic Theory.
I sold it to India the same turn for about 200gpt.

	17-06-2003 17:42									#14
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hi ,

btw , never sell inbetween turns

and sometimes you can sell or get one tech and after that deal you can extort some more out of them , ....

have a nice day

	17-06-2003 20:58									#15
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quote: Originally posted by panag btw , never sell inbetween turns and sometimes you can sell or get one tech and after that deal you can extort some more out of them , ....

That's a definite no-no that a lot of people make when they are starting out (I know I did). If you sell or trade a tech on the AI turn, then they will often turn around and sell it to the other AI civs on their turn. If you wait until your turn then YOU can sell the tech to all the other civs (if you so desire) and reap the reward instead of the AI.

	19-06-2003 10:05									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill That's a definite no-no that a lot of people make when they are starting out (I know I did). If you sell or trade a tech on the AI turn, then they will often turn around and sell it to the other AI civs on their turn. If you wait until your turn then YOU can sell the tech to all the other civs (if you so desire) and reap the reward instead of the AI.

Good idea, I didn't think about that when I started. But I'm only a 12-year-old super-genius

	19-06-2003 10:13									#17
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quote: Originally posted by BKWM Good idea, I didn't think about that when I started. But I'm only a 12-year-old super-genius

The strategy forum and archives are great places to learn new info to pick up your game. Everyone can learn to play instead of like the way I used to be back in Civ2.

	19-06-2003 15:16									#18
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Nym just how many civs were in your game??

	19-06-2003 16:16									#19
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quote: Originally posted by BulMaster Nym just how many civs were in your game??

16. I am the most advanced civ (since the beginning of the Industrial Age).

	19-06-2003 16:41									#20
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of course the amount the AI is willing to pay depends on the map size, but I also find that the AI is willing to pay higher prices for stratgic sources when they are fighting a war..

	19-06-2003 22:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by PeaSoup I also find that the AI is willing to pay higher prices for stratgic sources when they are fighting a war..

Surely, but it was not a strategic resource nor a strategic knowledge. Atomic Theory brings nothing by itself. That is the reason why I was so surprised.

	20-06-2003 00:02									#22
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one question nym..

how come Joan's picture is from the midieval age?

	20-06-2003 04:37									#23
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I once sold Electronics to the Ottomans for 19700 gold and 450 something gpt. Unfortunately, it was a couple games ago, so I can't prove it now.

	20-06-2003 05:50									#24
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Wow!!

That beats any trade I've ever done.

	20-06-2003 12:28									#25
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quote: Originally posted by bobbo008 one question nym.. how come Joan's picture is from the midieval age?

It seems that it is the only one big picture of Joan. When you look in the leaderheads subdirectory, each leader has only one big picture and the era is not the same for each leader.
In fact I did not notice it before: I do not care how my opponents look like; the most important is the deal I make with them.

	20-06-2003 12:36									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Virdrago I once sold Electronics to the Ottomans for 19700 gold and 450 something gpt. Unfortunately, it was a couple games ago, so I can't prove it now.

Wow! Impressive!
That is a GREAT deal.