11-06-2003 08:33									#1
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So it looks like out of the consoles, MS took the show, Sony in 2nd, Nintendo in a rather distant 3rd...

Nominees: http://www.e3awards.com/nom.html
Winners: http://www.e3awards.com/win.html

Best of Show: Half-Life 2 for Xbox, PC

Best Original Game: Full Spectrum Warrior for Xbox, PC

Best PC Game: Half-Life 2

Best Console Game: Halo 2 for Xbox

Best Peripheral/Hardware: EyeToy for PS2

Best Action Game: Half-Life 2 for Xbox, PC

Best Action/Adventure Game: Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time for all consoles

Best Fighting Game: Soul Calibur 2 for all consoles

Best Role Playing Game: Fable for Xbox

Best Racing Game: Gran Turismo 4 for PS2

Best Simulation Game:Full Spectrum Warrior for Xbox, PC

Best Sports Game: Tony Hawk's Underground for all systems

Best Strategy Game: Rome: Total War for PC

Best Puzzle/Trivia/Parlor GameThe EyeToy Games for PS2

Best Online Multiplayer: City of Heroes for PC

Special Commendation for Graphics: Half-Life 2 for Xbox, PC



Nintendo needs to get its act together.

	11-06-2003 08:40									#2
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Nintendo also reports a 37% dip in profits for 2002.

	11-06-2003 09:02									#3
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1) What sort of information did they have for City of Heroes? Was it anything new?

2) You're almost like the anti-Drake when it comes to Nintendo.

3) WTF is Evil Genius?

	11-06-2003 13:59									#4
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quote: 3) WTF is Evil Genius?

Almost exactly like Dungeon Keeper, only instead of being a Demon with your own dungeon you're a Dr.Evil type villain who has his own secret lair. James Bond-type heros come to try and foil your evil schemes, and your henchman and cunning traps (sharks with frikkin laser beams attached to their heads) will try and stop them.

It looks like it'll be good fun, although the graphics look very dated.

	11-06-2003 17:07									#5
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Dungeon Keeper was a great concept, and a cool game. I hope this copy has the same pull.

	11-06-2003 18:16									#6
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet It looks like it'll be good fun, although the graphics look very dated.

Excellent!

	11-06-2003 19:14									#7
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And so, the hype for HL2 begins.

	11-06-2003 19:36									#8
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The 25-minute video from E3 is very impressive. It's not just uninformed hype.

I've seen lots of videos from E3 and nothing has even come close to looking as exciting as HL2. It would have been a no-brainer for those awards.

	11-06-2003 20:22									#9
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Aaahhh, Halo 2 and Half Life2. Maybe I won't sell my xbox after all.

	11-06-2003 20:32									#10
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Doom3 will be released for XBox too.

And Thief 3 (which has been renamed simply "Thief")

Deus Ex 2 will be getting an Xbox port too IIRC.

DEFINITELY don't sell it now!

Sony are in big big trouble.

	11-06-2003 20:48									#11
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very console oriented

best rpg and best adenture are both console.

And what is full spectrum warrior - what PC sims might have been picked instead?

	11-06-2003 20:50									#12
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark And what is full spectrum warrior - what PC sims might have been picked instead?

- Flight Simulator 2004: A Century of Flight
- Secret Weapons over Normandy
- Sims 2
- The Movies

	11-06-2003 21:02									#13
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Not a lot to choose from in the Sim category. Full Spectrum Warrior looks OK, but I don't know much about it.

The Movies sounds intriguing, but could easily be another high-concept mess like Black and White.

	11-06-2003 22:26									#14
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Half Life 2 looks awesome . I wonder if my PC can handle it .

	11-06-2003 22:29									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Half Life 2 looks awesome . I wonder if my PC can handle it .

If it can't the answer is not to give HL2 a miss, but get a new PC.

	13-06-2003 09:11									#16
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quote: 2) You're almost like the anti-Drake when it comes to Nintendo.

He's worse than I am. I don't really have anything against the Xbox; I just enjoy winding Glonkie up and watching him go.

	13-06-2003 17:47									#17
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If you owned an xbox you might. I had to replace my first one within a year of purchase and my new one is crawling downhill at a rapid pace. If only I had the money for a better PC...

	13-06-2003 18:07									#18
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Just what do you do to it?

If one box goes bad, you can chalk it up to bad luck, but if your second one goes bad, something is up...

	13-06-2003 20:12									#19
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First one completely fried. The second, current one is having trouble playing videos and recognizing disks. Not a major problem yet but this is how the problems started the last time. I'm just hoping it either holds together or crashes before my warranty runs out.

	13-06-2003 20:15									#20
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Do you keep it in direct sunlight or in a very dusty part of the room or something?

	14-06-2003 00:14									#21
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Do you urinate on it and/or throw it around when you die in a game?

	14-06-2003 00:16									#22
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I got mine Nov 15, 2001 and it's seen very heavy use, and the only problem I've had is my brother ****ed up one of the regular (bulky) controllers by spilling Coke all over it. It still works, the buttons just stick down sometimes. So I tossed it.

No problems at all with the console itself.

	14-06-2003 00:24									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Do you urinate on it and/or throw it around when you die in a game?

That's what's good about pc's............you have a nice replaceable keyboard you can hit if you have a short temper.

	16-06-2003 08:18									#24
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I'm pretty calm for the most part as far as physical violence on my gaming systems go. I've broken a few things before but they utterly deserved it, like that time I was almost at the end of Rygar on the Nintendo and my B/jump button didn't work while jumping through the air board . I had to replace that controller and help my dad patch the crack in the wall.

My xbox is on my entertainment center. I have lots of electronics and not alot of space to put it so it's a little cramped. The only thing I feel could be giving me problems is one of my stereo speakers which was next to it. I moved the speaker a couple of feet away to see if it'll help.

	16-06-2003 09:00									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc 1) What sort of information did they have for City of Heroes? Was it anything new?

Or is that only a crapy X Box stealth thread?

	17-06-2003 03:46									#26
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I have zero interest for City of Heroes, so I couldn't tell you.

quote: I have lots of electronics and not alot of space to put it so it's a little cramped.

The thing gets quite hot, the manual clearly says give it ample space around it to get fresh air.

Parts die far faster in high-heat environments.

	17-06-2003 22:19									#27
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Hm, they apparently love this Half-Life thing. What's so special in a game where you kill alien monsters? I thought we had seen zillions of those games by now.

"Oh, but the graphics...". Yeah, right.

	17-06-2003 22:39									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Hm, they apparently love this Half-Life thing. What's so special in a game where you kill alien monsters? I thought we had seen zillions of those games by now. "Oh, but the graphics...". Yeah, right.

What's with these games where you take it in turns with the AI to build up an Empire? Don't we have enough of those already?

What's with these games where you play in real-time to collect resources, build bases and fight an opponent. Don't we have enough of those already?

What's with these games where you play the role of a single character, buy weapons and items, chat to NPC's, read lots of text, do quests and kill the big villain at the end? Don't we have enough of those already?

What's with these games where there are two people on screen who do nothing but attack each other with highly unrealistic special moves? Don't we have enough of those already?

What's with these games where you jump from platform to platform collecting bonuses, power-ups and jumping-on/shooting enemies? Don't we have enough of those already?

What's with these games where you play some sport against either the AI or your friend? Don't we have enough of those already?

What's with these games where you are in charge of some kind of business/railway/theme park and have to make it as commercially succesful as possible? Don't we have enough of those already?

WHAT IS GAMING COMING TO THESE DAYS???? THE SUNDAY GAMERS ARE RUINING IT FOR US HARDCORE MATURE PEOPLE!!!

	17-06-2003 22:39									#29
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The story is really good.

	17-06-2003 22:46									#30
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet What's with these games where you take it in turns with the AI to build up an Empire? Don't we have enough of those already? What's with these games where you play in real-time to collect resources, build bases and fight an opponent. Don't we have enough of those already? What's with these games where you play the role of a single character, buy weapons and items, chat to NPC's, read lots of text, do quests and kill the big villain at the end? Don't we have enough of those already? What's with these games where there are two people on screen who do nothing but attack each other with highly unrealistic special moves? Don't we have enough of those already? What's with these games where you jump from platform to platform collecting bonuses, power-ups and jumping-on/shooting enemies? Don't we have enough of those already? What's with these games where you play some sport against either the AI or your friend? Don't we have enough of those already? What's with these games where you are in charge of some kind of business/railway/theme park and have to make it as commercially succesful as possible? Don't we have enough of those already? WHAT IS GAMING COMING TO THESE DAYS???? THE SUNDAY GAMERS ARE RUINING IT FOR US HARDCORE MATURE PEOPLE!!!

Being one of the greatest games in a popular genre with many competing games is of course harder than excelling in a less popular genre. As for the graphics gibe (which will feature in my upcoming "spurious criticisms of sunday gamers" thread btw ) there were many games that tried to ignite the field in the way HL did, and many of those had great graphics (remember Unreal anyone?).

So bring on HL2, because HL was a true milestone.