12-06-2003 06:12									#1
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7th symphony!

Finale!

BAM-bambambam!

[pause]

BAM-bambambam!

[pause]

dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, DAH DAH DAH, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, BAM-bambambam!

dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, DAH DAH DAH, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, BAM-bambambam!

etc., etc.

	12-06-2003 06:16									#2
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"Move over Beethoven!"

hmm, no 50's music fans here?

Wasn't there a movie about a dog named Beethoven?

	12-06-2003 06:19									#3
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quote: "Move over Beethoven!"

And tell Tchikovsky (sp?) the news!

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin "Move over Beethoven!"

The irony is that Beethoven is still well-known and much beloved and much performed.

Whomever did that song (anybody know who they were?)...well, can't say the same for them.

	12-06-2003 06:21									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: "Move over Beethoven!" And tell Tchikovsky (sp?) the news!

Tchaikovsky.

Another whose place in the musical pantheon is quite secure (for better or for worse).

	12-06-2003 06:23									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov 7th symphony! Finale! BAM-bambambam! [pause] BAM-bambambam! [pause] dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, DAH DAH DAH, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, BAM-bambambam! dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, DAH DAH DAH, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, dah-dee-dah-dah-dah-dah, BAM-bambambam! etc., etc.

Kleiber, Vienna Philharmonic??

	12-06-2003 06:24									#7
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quote: Whomever did that song (anybody know who they were?)...well, can't say the same for them.

Actually I'd say he held up pretty well.

It's actually "ROLL over Beethoven" by a little know artist known as Chuck Berry .

	12-06-2003 06:25									#8
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That was a whole lot of dahing.

	12-06-2003 06:58									#9
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Saint Bernards are just so damn cute! them with thier little barrel of booze...

	12-06-2003 06:59									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Kleiber, Vienna Philharmonic??

No other choice for a digital recording!

Now, in mono I have Furtwangler and the BPO--nearly half again as slow as Kleiber, but also unbeatable feeling.

	12-06-2003 07:01									#11
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Damn it! Admit Chuck Berry is well known!

	12-06-2003 07:06									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov No other choice for a digital recording! Now, in mono I have Furtwangler and the BPO--nearly half again as slow as Kleiber, but also unbeatable feeling.

No other choice for any recording, really. That record is one of my absolute favourites. As for digital. I do like Gardiner's 7th (as opposed to some of the others in his set) - but Kleiber reaches places other conductors don't reach.

Do you have the Kleiber?

Never heard F's seventh. I have his famous recording of No. 9 though.

On a lighter note: ever hear the Ashkenazy, Perlman, Harrell Archduke? That's also got a prime place in my collection.

	12-06-2003 07:11									#13
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I was referring to Kleiber's 7th, I meant "stereo." That was the one I was listening to at the time I posted the thread.

Furtwangler does Beethoven in a class all by himself. Some find it too slow, others too fast. I find it amazingly expressive.

Haven't heard that Archduke, but do have a pretty good recording in my collection, surprisingly enough on the inexpensive Phillips label.

	12-06-2003 07:16									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I was referring to Kleiber's 7th, I meant "stereo." That was the one I was listening to at the time I posted the thread.

That'd be the one: DG Originals, with the 5th. Pure Genius - along with Reiner's Bartok a Desert Island Disc.

quote: Furtwangler does Beethoven in a class all by himself. Some find it too slow, others too fast. I find it amazingly expressive.

I often wish he could have lived a few more years. I much prefer his 9th to Toscanini's.

quote: Haven't heard that Archduke, but do have a pretty good recording in my collection, surprisingly enough on the inexpensive Phillips label.

It's a good one. Who's on the Philips? Didn't the Beaux Arts record for them (or whoever used to own the label)?

	12-06-2003 07:18									#15
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beethoven is gay

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So the rumours say.

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damn you canucks and your damn "--ours"... the english do it too, those bast4rds...

it's RUMORS, NEIGHBORS, COLORS,

	12-06-2003 07:25									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon That'd be the one: DG Originals, with the 5th. Pure Genius - along with Reiner's Bartok a Desert Island Disc.

The only problem is that, in the second movement, the grace notes are absolutely wrong. Why Kleiber does this (it has to be intentional), I have no clue. Otherwise, the recording is astounding.

quote: I often wish he could have lived a few more years. I much prefer his 9th to Toscanini's.

Amen. Toscanini bores me. Precise, yes, but also dry, clipped and expressionless. Furtwangler was a broken man by the time he died, however. A late victim of the Nazi regime.

quote: It's a good one. Who's on the Philips? Didn't the Beaux Arts record for them (or whoever used to own the label)?

Oy, will have to dig it out...

	12-06-2003 07:25									#19
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I just noticed that I did that.

I've lived here too long, save me!!!!

	12-06-2003 07:26									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Sava beethoven is gay

Unsubstantiated!

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Unsubstantiated!

perhaps...

Asher

	12-06-2003 07:31									#22
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And here I was thinking Boris would want to claim him .

	12-06-2003 07:34									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And here I was thinking Boris would want to claim him .

We have Tchaikovsky, Handel, Saint-Saens, Barber, Britten, Menotti, Bernstein, Schubert, Delibes, Liszt, Gluck, Copland, Mussorgsky and others. We don't need him!

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov We have Tchaikovsky, Handel, Saint-Saens, Barber, Britten, Menotti, Bernstein, Schubert, Delibes, Liszt, Gluck, Copland, Mussorgsky and others. We don't need him!

and Elton John!

	12-06-2003 07:35									#25
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Oh oh, and Alan Turing!!!!

	12-06-2003 07:36									#26
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Fools and idiots. Surrounded by them I am!

	12-06-2003 07:36									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov We have Tchaikovsky, Handel, Saint-Saens, Barber, Britten, Menotti, Bernstein, Schubert, Delibes, Liszt, Gluck, Copland, Mussorgsky and others. We don't need him!

I didn't know about Handel (seriously - I don't bother to find out the sexual preferences of composers - for some strange reason I think it doesn't matter) but IIRC Bernstein played for both teams, so you guys only get half of him.

	12-06-2003 07:37									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov No other choice for a digital recording! Now, in mono I have Furtwangler and the BPO--nearly half again as slow as Kleiber, but also unbeatable feeling.

Furtwangler....




ACK!

	12-06-2003 07:37									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Sava and Elton John!

Don't forget Rob Halford of Judas Priest.

	12-06-2003 07:38									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Don't forget Rob Halford of Judas Priest.

And Freddy from Queen.

(and David Bowie...)