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GePap
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of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:28
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Originally posted by Velociryx
Because might does not make right. |
What about intelligence. Much theft has nothign to dow ith mgiht but brains: think of cons, or somethinglike enron.
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We punish theivery because the thief did nothing to create or enhance the value of that which is stolen. All the theif did was prove that posession is 9/10th's of the law. |
And neither does having in in your house. How much wealth did the guys at Enron create? As they inflated the price of thier stock, in increased the prices of opthers, and people willingly bought. A ot of wealth was created with that. If you buy a bike for recreation, you won;t do anymore economic good with it than a guy who steals it from you to do the same. Some crime has no economic beenfit (just as some "honest work" doens;t either), but that is not a general truth.
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Same with civic equality. Might does not make right. It's as simple as that. |
And as above, what about intellect and ambition, two things you do seem to think matter a great deal.
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Civic equality establishes that everyone has the right to own property, and that his/her property is protected. |
Why is portection form others more valuable than form yourself? Most capitalits would be against some sort of guaranteed returns for investors, so they do not become poor. So society can;t portect you from yourself but yes from others who might be brighetr than you? (whether they do so legally or illegally)
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What you DO with that property....how you use it to create wealth for yourself....that's up to you. Your choice. Your decision. |
And perhaps my decsion to work to take it from someone else?
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Make a good decision, work hard at it, and the market will reward you with money.
Make a poor decision or choose not to work at it, and the market will deny you money. |
Well, if by good you mean mot only intelliegent but perhapsd also timely or popular, then yeas, i agree.
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Making good decisions and working hard come with a built in reward. Betterment. The downside is that you don't have as much free time to enjoy your betterment until you have amassed a fortune of sufficient size that you can stop working altogether. |
And betterment need not come with wealth. Monsk surely better themsleves thorugh honest work, without really adding a penny to the overall economy.
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Electing not to play the game comes with its own rewards too....more free time. It carries with it the downside that, although you are swimming in free time, you lack the money to do anything with it, and comes with the disadvantage that you are at the mercy of those with more, relying on charity and government subsidy to get you by.
-=Vel=- |
And what about workign to change the game? So that what you like to do becomes the winning ciscumstance. You see, I do think it is all just a game. The question is, does the game have some inherent value to it, or is it "just a game"?
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17-06-2003 01:25
My personal belief is that one should try to help people that are down that could HONESTLY use the help & who deserve the help. ~shugs~ Life has handed me many blessings & many lumps. I have been helped out a lot by many people. Hell, even Vel is nice to me every so often! 
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