14-06-2003 07:12									#31
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quote: Now go to any major Gourmet group/publication and see which one they proferm. It won't be Georgia.

Gourmet rib shack? It shows how OUT OF TOUCH Californians are that they consider 'gourmet' food to be the best food .

	14-06-2003 07:13									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Imran, show me italian places, chinese places, any ethnic food. show me seafood that is fresh caught the same day. Um... you want to come to Atlanta? I'll show you all of them... though if you want seafood that is right off the boat fresh (instead of 10 hours later ), we may have to take a trip to Savannah. I've been there and done that. My aunt lives in Atlanta (and she's been talking about moving beack for 15 years) but the weather just plain sucks. there's no way around it. quote: When did I talk about Holliwood? ever seen a holiwood movie? See Californians can't even remember what they said less than half an hour ago .

Haha. Quote? Choice music, movies, books, plays, food, cultural diversity, just about anything and we're world class while Georgia just isn't.

	14-06-2003 07:14									#33
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Imran, thats all you got? a rib shack? a rib shack!?! maybe its because people in georgia value simple things because they can never achieve anything higher.

	14-06-2003 07:15									#34
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quote: Imran, opinions arent fact. you know this. the fact is though californian food is lauded by everyone from the press to tourists to the locals, while people only know georgia for peaches and peanut farms and billy beer. p.s. your bbq is still a ***** to north carolinas

North Carolina wishes its BBQ could be as good as the Deep South's. It's decent, but I can put viniger and hot sauce on my ribs too .

And which food is 'California' food. I don't recall knowing which food is exactly considered part of California culture... oh wait... that's right... there isn't any .

	14-06-2003 07:18									#35
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imran, using that line of reasoning youd think the US is inferior to the rest of the world because its culture is a beautiful amalgam of many different cultures.

	14-06-2003 07:19									#36
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quote: Imran, thats all you got? a rib shack? a rib shack!?! maybe its because people in georgia value simple things because they can never achieve anything higher.

Ribs are God's best food on Earth. There is nothing that a gourmet place can come close to touching. I'll take ribs anyday over anything in New York City (and I've been all over Manhatten).

quote: Choice music, movies, books, plays, food, cultural diversity, just about anything and we're world class while Georgia just isn't.

I guess that is why Georgia has produced so many better people? Martin Luther King, Jr., Jackie Robinson, Otis Redding, Jim Brown... all beat anyone California has to offer.

	14-06-2003 07:19									#37
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Want to bet? Have you ever heard of California Fusion Cuisine? Oh, that's right Georgia is so backwards they probalby haven't!

	14-06-2003 07:20									#38
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quote: imran, using that line of reasoning youd think the US is inferior to the rest of the world because its culture is a beautiful amalgam of many different cultures.

Culturally? Ask Euros what they think of American culture .

	14-06-2003 07:20									#39
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quote: Have you ever heard of California Fusion Cuisine?

Where is the puke smily when you need it...

	14-06-2003 07:21									#40
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Imran, youre not a euro Mr. Stars and Stipes

Imran, California produced reagan. nuff said.

	14-06-2003 07:22									#41
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quote: Imran, California produced reagan. nuff said.

Actually Reagan was born in Tampico, Illinois . Try again.

	14-06-2003 07:24									#42
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Marcus Allen football player San Diego
Luis Walter Alvarez inventor, San Francisco
Gertrude Atherton author, San Francisco
David Belasco playwright and producer, San Francisco
Shirley Temple Black actress, ambassador, Santa Monica
Robert Bower inventor, Santa Monica
Dave Brubeck musician, Concord
Julia Child chef, television, Pasadena
Coolio rap artist, Los Angeles
Frederick G. Cottrell inventor, Oakland
Leonardo DiCaprio actor Hollywood
Joe DiMaggio baseball player, Martinez
James H. Doolittle air force general, Alameda
Isadora Duncan dancer, San Francisco
John Frémont explorer, San Francisco
Robert Frost poet, San Fancisco
Jerry Garcia guitarist, singer, San Francisco
Charles P. Ginsburg inventor, San Francisco
Richard Pancho Gonzales tennis player, Los Angeles
Jeff Gordon car racer, Vallejo
William Randolph Hearst publisher, San Francisco
Mariel Hemingway actress, Mill Valley
Sidney Howard playwright, Oakland
Anthony M. Kennedy jurist, Sacramento
Jack London author, San Francisco
George Lucas filmmaker, Modesto
Theodore Harold Maiman inventor, Los Angeles
Mark McGwire baseball player, Pomona
Aimee Semple McPherson evangelist, Ontario
Dominique Moreanir gymnast, Hollywood
Emma Nevada opera singer, Alpha
Richard M. Nixon U.S. president, Yorba Linda
Isamu Noguchi sculptor, Los Angeles
George S. Patton, Jr. general, San Gabriel
Robert Redford actor, Santa Monica
Sally K. Ride astronaut, Encino
William Saroyan author, Fresno
Lincoln Steffens journalist, author, San Francisco
John Steinbeck author, Salinas
Adlai Stevenson statesman, Los Angeles
Michael Tilson Thomas conductor, Hollywood
Earl Warren jurist, Los Angeles
Serena & Venus Williams tennis players, Lynwood
Myra Wilson actress, Burbank
Eldrick "Tiger" Woods golfer, Cypress

and Reagon grew up in California & always called himself a Californian. Suck it! So did Nixon and numerious other national figures.

	14-06-2003 07:24									#43
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i was born in illinois for god sake! but im a californian as was reagan when he became an actor, politician, and a conservative kabal idol

	14-06-2003 07:29									#44
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Hey Oerdin

Conrad Aiken poet, Savannah
James Bowie soldier, Burke County
Jim Brown actor, athlete, St. Simons Island
Erskine Caldwell writer, Moreland
James E. Carter U.S. president, Plains
Ray Charles singer, Albany
Lucius D. Clay banker, general, Marietta
Ty Cobb baseball player, Narrows
Charles Coburn movie and TV actor, Macon
Ossie Davis actor, writer, Cogdell
James Dickey poet, Atlanta
Mattiwilda Dobbs soprano, Atlanta
Melvyn Douglas actor, Macon
Pete Drake musician/record producer, Augusta
Rebecca Latimer Felton first appointed woman U.S. senator, Decatur
Lawrence Fishburne III actor, Augusta
Henry W. Grady journalist, Athens
Amy Grant singer, Augusta
Oliver Hardy comedian, Harlem
Joel Chandler Harris journalist, author, Eatonton
Roland Hayes singer, Curyville
Fletcher Henderson musician/songwriter, Cuthbert
Hulk Hogan professional wrestler, Augusta
John Henry Doc Holliday western hero, Griffin
Larry Holmes boxer, Cuthert
Miriam Hopkins actress, Bainbridge
Harry James trumpeter, Albany
Jasper Johns painter, sculptor, Augusta
Bobby Jones golfer, Atlanta
Stacy Keach actor, Savannah
DeForest Kelley actor, Atlanta
Martin Luther King, Jr. civil rights leader, Atlanta
Gladys Knight singer, Atlanta
Joseph R. Lamar jurist, Elbert
Brenda Lee singer, Lithonia
Juliette Gordon Low U.S. Girl Scouts founder, Savannah
Carson McCullers author, Columbus
Blind Willie McTell blues pioneer, Thomson
Johnny Mercer songwriter, Savannah
Margaret Mitchell author, Atlanta
John Robert Johnny Mize baseball player, Demorest
Jessye Norman singer, Augusta
Otis Redding singer, Dawson
Jerry Reed singer/songwriter/actor, Atlanta
Burt Reynolds actor, Waycross
Little Richard singer, Macon
Jackie Robinson baseball player, Cairo
Tommy Roe singer/songwriter, Alpharetta
Billy Joe Royal singer, Valdosta
Dean Rusk secretary of state, Cherokee Cty
Nipsey Russell comedian, Atlanta
Ray Stevens singer/songwriter, Clarksdale
Janelle Taylor romance novelist, Athens
Clarence Thomas supreme court associate justice, Savannah
Travis Tritt singer/songwriter, Marietta
Alice Walker author, Eatonton
Joanne Woodward actress, Thomasville
Trisha Yearwood singer, Monticello

Which includes three of the greatest baseball players of all time, the greatest football player of all time, and some of the biggest people in the Civil Rights movement .

quote: So did Nixon

You can have Nixon... I wouldn't claim him if he was from my state anyway .

	14-06-2003 07:35									#45
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California, up in redwood country.

	14-06-2003 07:37									#46
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the only reason you have civil rights leaders is to compensate for the over the top racism of the state. california had no need for civil rights leaders because civil rights were never a horrible issue for the state.

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quote: the only reason you have civil rights leaders is to compensate for the over the top racism of the state. california had no need for civil rights leaders because civil rights were never a horrible issue for the state

Yeah, tell that to Chinese people in 1900 .

And Latinos in some white rural Cali towns.

Civil rights never horrible... I also bet Japanese during WW2 would beg to differ.

	14-06-2003 07:41									#48
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chinese people have been integrate since then. and how many chinese people were lynched in that time.

and the ww2 thing wasnt done state by state. if the law had allowed georgia would have interned black people during wolrd war 2.

oh yeah, what happened in conyers? what was that? a syphillis outbreak? only in georgia...

	14-06-2003 07:44									#49
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Yeah Chinese people have been integrated since then, but so have blacks in the South.

And, may I remind you that California minor leagues were segreated as well before Jackie Robinson, a Georgian, broke the major league color barrier.

	14-06-2003 07:47									#50
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you want to test that imran? id really like to see how black southerners think they are treated by their white counterparts.

	14-06-2003 07:49									#51
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Seeing as black Georgians are a majority in the state and are mayors in Atlanta as well as other major cities in the South and are well represented in the legislature, I'd say they really don't feel segregated. Maybe in the boonies, but then again in the boonies, California has similiar problems.

	14-06-2003 07:51									#52
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the only people who get mistreated in california arent legal immigrants. but if you take up the cause of illegal immigrants then i believe hell, *ahem* georgia will have frozen over.

	14-06-2003 07:53									#53
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Califronia won't let people smoke in BARS, yet has some of the worst pollution in the country.

ACK!

	14-06-2003 07:55									#54
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I've always taken up the cause of illegal immigrants. I'd love to throw the borders open... but selfish Californians, among other border staters wouldn't like that at all.

And I wouldn't say it is JUST illegals:

http://www.saxakali.com/CommunityLinkups/racism1.htm

	14-06-2003 07:59									#55
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Imran, if you want to start throwing up case by case incidents of racism in each state, we can reach 500 posts in no time.

The only people i hear complain about illegal immigrants are rightwingers. arent we a pinko commie liberal state?

	14-06-2003 08:03									#56
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quote: The only people i hear complain about illegal immigrants are rightwingers. arent we a pinko commie liberal state?

In most of your cities. Go eastward, and you get closed white racist communities just like in the boonies in every state . You can get off your high horse about having no racism, because you definetly do.... and if you don't believe that look at the LAPD.

Btw, I never knew labor unions were rightwingers .

	14-06-2003 08:07									#57
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im a teamster imran, and the teamsters have several "legal" immigrants in the brotherhood. The impression other people get though imran, and this is whats important, is that georgia has a longer history of government sponsored and protected racism than california.

i find it funny though that the only positive you can come up with though for georgia is rib shacks.

	14-06-2003 08:13									#58
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I've never been to Georgia but I hear Atlanta's a happenin' town. I lived in California (Santa Clarita, LA County) for three months (came back April 18th) and it's alright out there but I got to say, I like the East Coast much better.

	14-06-2003 08:17									#59
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quote: i find it funny though that the only positive you can come up with though for georgia is rib shacks.

And if you know an area has an incredible food, you wouldn't hold it up? I should tell New Yorkers and Chicagoians to not talk about pizza anymore .

What else do you want me to tell? Atlanta is a wonderful city, full of people of every ethnicity (and they bring their cooking as well ). You can head downtown and see the Capitol, the CNN Center (good tour, btw), Coke's attraction... or go to Midtown & Buckhead for the bars and clubs and great eats. Or go to Decatur for that small town feel right next to a big city. Farther north, the rich areas of Alpharetta with horse parks and fabulous communities. And not to mention the wonderful music and politeness of everyone you meet (seriously, Southern people are much more polite).

Or, we can go to Savannah to see the prettiest city in the country, with gardens all over, and right on the water. We can get some good seafood and lounge on a porch overlooking the nice prominades.

Or, if you want to party, Athens, where UGA is. Ranked over and over and over again as the best party school in America (Sports Illustrated featured the mascot on its cover when it announced its list). It's an entire town devoted to the college and partying.

And of course, some of the best baseball around. There are a great number of minor league parks and great high school talent that comes out of Georgia every year. Not to mention Michael Vick and up rising Atlanta Falcons .

That enough 'positive' things for you?

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Imran, only 1 of those is objective and thats the partying. saying savannah is the prettiest city in the country is you subjective opinion. atlanta may very well be wonderful, but you can find many of the same or similar things in other cities. best baseball? says who? says you.

im a huge vick fan but until i see two fists full of rings from atlanta i shall scoff.

the thing that i believe is, california offers everything any other state could, and more. to me georgia might as well be alabama, but there is only one california.